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The New Semi Auto Galatian Tactical Is A Tack Driver! (video)

Discussion in 'Airgun Reviews' started by www.Air-Gun-Channel.com, Dec 31, 2018.

  1. www.Air-Gun-Channel.com

    www.Air-Gun-Channel.com Engaging Member

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    This was the best $749 I ever spent on an airgun. If you saw my Hatsan Flash accuracy video, I put 14 shots through about a 3/8 in hole at 35 yards. The Flash .177 was super accurate. Now the new Galatian Tactical version semi auto is out and it does the same thing…extreme accuracy at 35 and 50 yards…and in semi auto!

    Here is a video of my time with the Hatsan Galatian Semi Auto Tactical Version:



    Thanks for watching! -Nate

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    Jeez, you guy's can have so much more fun.
     
  3. Spray1Mark

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    Didn't you know that California is one of the "communist" states in America, wouldn't get me there if you paid me!

    Nate is playing with an Airgun because he has been denied most of his second ammendment rights LOL!
     
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    That looks like everything the original should have been. Would have one in a heartbeat if we were allowed.. :(
     
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    Same old question again.....But why are we not allowed these in the UK but the Steyr hunting 5 is ok.

    Hatsan , Kral and Evanix have put out some semi auto's but there is still no clear indication why we cant have these in the uk.

    Ps i have searched the forum for answers but nothing clear is stated
     
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    What a cracking rifle!
     
  7. Spray1Mark

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    Because the Steyr isn't semi automatic, the law clearly states that only firearms/rifles chambered in .22RF can be posessed in the UK.

    This was done to prohibit more power than .22RF (i.e. centerfire) not less, but of course catches everything else as well. The Parlimentary time to change it will never be allocated in the current climate, especially with the GTA and other airgun ambassadors trying to prevent it as well.

    Your only option is to find something like an Evanix 480, Being smoothbore these don't fall foul of the UK laws.
     
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    That looks like so much fun ! thanks for uploading :)
     
  9. cloverleaf

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    To add to Mark's point above the law specifically prohibits "Self loading rifles" unless chambered in .22RF or smoothbore. At the time no dispensation was made for airguns as the tech didn't exist at the time and for whatever reason an exemption hasn't been retrospectively added (as it was with regard to the post-pistol ban "12/24" addition regarding firearm length).

    The Steyr is legal because the shots are fired directly from the mag into the barrel when the trigger is pulled (termed as "self indexing"), whereas rifles like the Hatsan above have a reciprocating bolt that loads a pellet into the bore after every shot and are hence "self loading".

    A shame for many - while Hatsan are responsible for some truly horrendous airguns IMO this looks like a really fun and interesting rifle and the first of the semis from the sub-Steyr manufacturers that looks worth having.

    As Mark suggests they could legally be brought in if Hatsan were to make a smoothbore version, but obviously would lose a lot of their appeal if accuracy was degraded. I'm not sure that the importers would want to rock the boat either.

    While I don't for one moment agree with the "airgunning establishment's" extremely underhand behaviour when it came to the Steyr (although this did backfire on them beautifully!) I do to an extent appreciate their argument against semi-auto airguns and their potential for misuse; this growing as guns get cheaper / more accessible and mag capacities get larger.

    It's interesting to note that despite SMK apparently getting a free pass on anti-tamper from the AMTA (none of their PCPs apparently have it fitted) they're not bringing in the Huben K1 semi-auto air rifle, despite it apparently being UK-legal; so it seems that the AMTA are still keeping a short leash on these guns.

    The only reason that the Steyr is coming in officially now is because of the AMTA's dirty tricks forcing the Police's hand on catagorisation of the firing mechanism used in the Hunting 5A (which up until that point they'd not imported) and LP50 pistol. When the legal analysis came out in the guns' favour Steyr were obviously never going to bow to the AMTA's demands after the way they'd been treated in the past.

    I suppose we should count ourselves lucky that we can (funds permitting!) own the H5A as it's a hell of a rifle. A real shame about the others though as you could have some great fun with one of these - imagine a practical-style setup like .22LR "mini rifle" for example - loads of fun!
     
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    Just to point out.
    Its .22 rimfire not .22LR.
    You can have self loading in a .22 WMR legally
     
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    Thanks for pointing that out - edited accordingly :)
     
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    Maybe the reason SMK don't fit antitamper is that it's not required by law? I think all the other manufacturers were bullied/coerced into it.
     
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    You are correct, it isn't, but tell people they need to do something enough times and they will believe it!
     
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    Only for PCPs though, I haven't seen a springer with A/T yet. I still can't work out what A/T achieves apart from being a bloody nuisance.
     
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    It protects the manufacturers from criticism by the authorities, at the end of the day the law says "capable" every PCP gun on the market is capable in reality.
     
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    So is every springer. ;)
    AT was designed to take out the responsibility of the manufacturer being in trouble and putting all the responsibility to remain legal on the customers shoulders but without the customer being able to remain legal. If you get what I mean. :cool: AMTA just protecting themselves.
     
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    You are right but I would much sooner have an 11.3 Ftlb gun with the anti tamper fitted than an 11.3 ftlb gun without anti tamper if it got taken from me by the police.
     
  18. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill CO2 Enthusiast and nice guy.

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    But what if your anti tampered gun was measured at 12.8 ftlbs at the club or at home? Wouldn't it be better to be able to turn it down yourself to remain legal? An what would the Police do with it? Are you suggesting they would alter it?
     
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    Yep I am suggesting if there was a screw available to turn under the stock they may well turn it.

    You obviously have more faith in the integrity of the police and G4S than I do.
     
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    The answer would been to get rid of the 12 ftlb limit and say have an upper one of say 20 ftlb and just make the rifles incapable of producing the power hike needed to go over the limit. Do you know why we even have this limit and why it was introduced?
     

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