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The New Lesiglation

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by EX Mod Cog, Sep 20, 2007.

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Do you support the new laws?

Poll closed Oct 10, 2007.
  1. Yes

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  2. No

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    92.9%
  1. EX Mod Cog

    EX Mod Cog Keyboard Hero

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    What are your views on the new laws coming into play?

    EDIT : Yes I know I spelt 'legislation' wrongly ... sorry.
     
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  2. hughgoldsmith

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    I don't think that the bill will achieve any of its objectives so no i do not support it in the slightest. It's only making it harder on us law abiding people!
     
  3. Buzz

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    I don't think this is a straight YES/NO subject. The reason I say that is because in order to stop the few, there has to be something done that will affect the many.
    The whole firearms laws are ridiculous anyway, as usual they only affect the lawabiding citizens and this is just another situation that has the same associated problems. With this one though their are huge loopholes anyway....or at least I think there are. I can go to a gun shop and buy an airgun face to face, then I can sell it privately, effectively by mail order, and as long as I don't do it as a business it's legal.
    I think a far better way would be to have to have an Airgun Certificate, in a similar way to Shotgun Certificate, but with reduced checks and need for security, but to be able to purchase by mail order using that certificate number to deliver the gun to the registered address.
    Many people will not like that idea and I must admit it shouldn't really be necessary with a weapon at only 12ft/lbs, but something HAS to be done to keep guns away from the morons.
    So it's a YES, I do agree that something HAS to be done, but NO, I don't think this is the solution to the perceived problem, as it's mainly hitting the suppliers and not the illegal users.
    Brian
     
  4. Andy

    Andy Administrative Staff Member Founder

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    That's exactly why i think it's another stupid law that won't make any difference to the violent crime committed by yobs.

    Right, who lives near Blackpool airguns for when i'm ready for my next purchase. :D
     
  5. EX Mod Cog

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    Since when have criminals used air rifles?
     
  6. Buzz

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    You have to be joking right.....I didn't use the word "criminal", but everyone who acts illegally is one, like it or not. If this means someone who tries to rob a shop or someone who sets up a target in a farmers field without permission, it's still illegal use and is what gets us all a bad name. Just recently we've had in our neighbourhood a couple of idiots who go round shooting LNB's on sky dishes....just for fun. Both of them are 13 years old and are twin brothers using their older brothers' guns. He's a druggy and dealer, so as soon as they get confiscated he just orders up more. All three go out at night, shooting at cars on the nearby dual carriageway and it's only a matter of time before an accident occurs that kills someone, so grow up and stop asking bloody stupid questions !!
    OK, so you don't do it yourself..(maybe).. but as a legal user you should be all for anything that helps to stop the above and make ownership of a gun more acceptable to all.
    The World would be a better place without all the morons...there would be no need for all the do-gooders for a start and that alone would be worth a small fortune..but as it is some form of restraint is needed and as I said before I don't think these new laws will make a blind bit of difference, but an air gun is a WEAPON and should be treated as such.
    Do I feel sorry for the legitmate people who won't be able to mail order a gun..YES..do I feel sorry for the dealers who can no longer mail order guns..most definately YES, but if it takes one gun from the hands of an idiot who may kill someone it's worth it.
    I live in Rotherham, South Yorkshire and I travel to Euroguns at Finningley to buy anything I need...that's 35 miles away, but what I will say is that if there's anybody living in my local area that needs to go to a gun shop they are welcome to come with us when we go. Try getting that system organised round the rest of the country instead of bleating about no mail order.
     
  7. AA Anonymous

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    I dont think taking air guns off idiots is going to make any difference at all.We had a young lad shooting at car lights and mirrors when they were parked up. the police arrested him and took his gun off him which i may add was the only mis use of airguns i have heard about in the 25 years i've been shooting, the week after he was back but this time throwing stones and made far more damage with them than the gun did. we need to deel with the idiot not the weapon. a screwdriver is for screwing in screws a hammer for knocking in nails and an air gun is for pest control or target shooting but in the wrong hands they are all dangerous weapons. i dont know about you but i think i would rather be shot by an air gun then stabbed with a screwdriver or hit on head with a hammer so why aren't these do gooders trying to restrict access to those or is that next after they've got rid of air guns all together. the fact is unfortunatly for us that most people just dont like guns and think they should be banned. making it more difficult for the everyday lawabiding person to get access to air guns is a step in the right direction as far as their concerned and they couldn't give a toss about our sport.

    A bit long winded i know but that is my opinion.
     
  8. springboy

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    I think it is another half hearted attempt by the government to to be seen to be doing something,so when this ridiculous law fails to stop the knob heads from misbehaving the anti's can turn round and say i told you so,airguns need to be banned all together,because we a all irresponsible idiots after all:rolleyes:
     
  9. EX Mod Cog

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    I couldn't agree more, anything can be a 'dangerous weapon' in the wrong hands, i mean you could knock someone out with a DVD player if you wanted to.
     
  10. Rockabilly

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    my bird says ive got a really dangerous weapon;)
     
  11. EX Mod Cog

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    Easy on the Napier.
     
  12. shadow

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    :confused::confused: can some one please tell me more:confused:

    I dont know nothing about this.

    ATB Shadow
     
  13. Rockabilly

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    totally agree with the newact, but it still wont stop the muppets getting their hands on airguns
     
  14. EX Mod Cog

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    Basically the government are being spoons, they're making the air gun laws even stricter.

    In short mail ordering is going to be banned - I think that's the main thing.

    There's a sticky about it on these forums - have a look for yourself.

    P.S. : Just relised I spelt legislation wrong ... :eek:
     
  15. Andy

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    See if you agree when you need a new part for your gun and the gunshop want 4 times the price you could have got it online. :der::loser:
     
  16. chris_1982

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    what about mail ordering from abroad? shhh! ;)
     
  17. Andy

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    Customs might just keep your item.
     
  18. chris_1982

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    lets not order abroad then. i guess contents need to be known to any couriers.
     

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