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The Golden Age Of Co2 Pistols

Discussion in 'Replica Airguns' started by Whisper, Jan 24, 2021.

  1. twodoctors

    twodoctors Air Pistol Hoarder...

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    I think I know what you mean about the quality of metal... especially when you start "working" with it when "modding" the internals or filing the sights. The air pistols "disintegrate" after a few strokes on the diamond stone!

    Shooting it as an air pistol though, to be honest the quality of the metal on mine hadn't bothered me that much. (maybe because I' a cheapskate...! :facepalm:)

    I'm not old enough to have experienced the Crosman 38T... gosh I wasn't' even born then! My first air pistol, I think, was a Walther P38 spring action air soft when I was in Hong Kong in the 80s. :facepalm: I think it was a Marui.
     
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    Once you get into the older collectable guns you really realise what your missing...
    And I haven't even mentioned stuff like the Crosman 150 Ted Williams edition...

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    I've got the standard .22 model and it's a proper hand cannon - everything you expect out of a proper CO2 air pistol except for the noise! :eek::D
     
  3. twodoctors

    twodoctors Air Pistol Hoarder...

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    You are probably not selling it, and I doubt I can afford one... but how much are they worth nowadays, if they ever come up for sale?
     
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    This is like discovering a new world underneath all that I knew about air guns. I hadn’t looked into the history of Co2 guns and honestly thought they were a new fangled thing that came about in the 1990s with the advent of the CP88. The internet was in its infancy back then and looking things up consisted of asking your uncles or listening to the lies other blokes made up in work. Fast forward to the present day and now I realise I’m looking in the wrong time period for my next gun purchase I need to go …



    The Wishlist has just been suspended! Crossman is in the hot zone!
     
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    IMG_1049.JPG Couple of oldies both.22

    Silver one is a Crosman 150 Medalist

    The other one is a Challenger Arms Plainsman
    I tend to warn fellow shooters before I fire it!
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    But I like modern co2 pistols too
     
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    The Ted Williams edition is rare here, I've not come across one on sale yet, but they are about.
    The one pictured isn't mine - mine is standard model (exactly the same, except without the vented rib).

    I suspect the price would be in £225-275 region?
     
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  7. Douglas Soal

    Douglas Soal Pistol enthusiast for life.

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    We have owners of the Umarex CP88 and 586 in our club, bought when first coming of ticket in the late nineties, still look as good as new and work fine, they have been looked after, and it shows.
     
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    Glad to have pointed you in the right direction ;), it's amazing to think the Crosman 150 was first introduced in 1954 (and made until 1967) right at the time that the 12g powerlet was first introduced by Crosman to go with it.
    The early versions of the powerlet's had a 'bottle cap' tops that were synonymous with leaking - it's a wonder they caught on and have endured for so long really.
     
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    When you've had your fill of these start looking at the Crosman 600's...

    10 shot linear pellet magazines + true semi-automatic function and in .22 = sheer brilliance :D

    But not replicas, so perhaps for another section... :(
     
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  10. Doyley83

    Doyley83 Previously 'thedoylemeister'

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    I would imagine getting into a vintage CO2 Crosman collection would be dangerous to the wallet?
     
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  11. twodoctors

    twodoctors Air Pistol Hoarder...

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    Well a quick google search quickly yield two results... a Crosman 38T for USD100 (or nearest offer!)

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-CR...326613?hash=item4dbc0b1c95:g:hEUAAOSwwMJf746Q

    and a Crosman 150 (standard I guess) sold for USD120 (plus auctioneer commission)

    https://www.liveauctioneers.com/en-gb/item/53562975_vintage-crosman-150-pellgun-22-cal-pellet-pistol

    I would grab one in a heart beat if they are that kind of prices over here...

    [edit] and for some reason the Webley Junior / senior etc just don't float my boat. :shrug:
     
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    lertho009# Airgun enthusiast

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    Don’t forget about the Crosman 451, 111 & the SA .22:thumb:
     
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    I think the whole subject on vintage airguns is fabulous. I find a lot to excite me in the airgun world currently what with the western and WW2 collections available that I haven’t got into yet - looking forward to that when the time is right - but going right back to the beginning, into the 1950s and 60s, that really is a bit special. I’m going to start looking at the Crossman products from that time and hopefully get a few nice pieces from that era, nothing too fancy, just a nod to the past and their legacy.
     
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    Geezer Keyboard Hero

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    I agree.
     
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    I haven’t had my own CP88 for very long but it’s been flawless. I often have one problem or another with my BB guns most sessions but those pellet firers just carry on working without issue shot after shot. I can understand why they’re a bit Marmite to some but for me well, I love Marmite :D
     
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    With the older Crosman's it's worth doing your homework first...

    Take the 38c (or t) for example, the first variants are the ones worth the most as the cylinders and sights were made of metal rather than the later models which had plastic replacements to save money.
    Similarly the .22 ones attract higher prices than the .177's because they lose very little in terms of velocity and obviously that makes them more powerful plus people say they have the edge in accuracy and just shoot nicer.
    I prefer them in .22 because that was how they were supplied to the military and police.

    From memory I think I paid £175 for my boxed version 1 38c quite a few years ago, but I've not seen another as nice here before or since.
     
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    You have my sympathy! but don't worry, I'm sure someone will come up with a vaccine soon
     
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    I fancy starting a search for an original 38 in .22 preferably with the box and paperwork in good order. I imagine it would be a rare find to come across as you mention but that’d just make it all the nicer to get hold of if I have to put a little effort into finding one.

    I’m off to eBay to have a look for Crossman articles and paperwork of that era to kick off my vintage collection and it’s certainly a pleasant way to spend a Sunday evening delving 70 years into the past to look at airguns before I was born. Cracking stuff I’m so pleased this thread has taken this very interesting turn.
     
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    Always worth a wanted ad on here and the other forum...you never know.
     
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    I know where there is a .177 38T for sale.
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