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The best 55yd 10-shot group I've ever shot..

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by cloverleaf, Apr 12, 2014.

  1. cloverleaf

    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    Since it's getting dark later (yay!) I ventured up the club earlier with my S400 parts bin mashup to stretch its legs on the outdoor range.

    The club was cool, still and quiet - perfect for some time on the bench rest. I'd tried some rested shots last week and while I love the EB 6x44 'scope on the rifle, the PX is set to 20yds making head movement critical at longer ranges (I was getting about 4-5" of POA shift at 55yds by moving my head from top to bottom of the 'scope). For tonight's testing I fitted an EB 24x44 target 'scope I keep around for such occasions ;)

    I chucked the gun onto some cheap Allen rests and set to work. The rifle was tested with a range of JSB pellets, but mainly AA Express as it's shown a preference for them in the past. 35yd groups were good (if not mind-blowing) at around 10mm c-c. Moving back to 55yds saw them open up to around 25mm. Following some vertical stringing the barrel band was removed; noticeably tightening groups to around 18mm avg c-c.

    Following the improvement I changed to some weighed (7.82-7.88gn) AA Express; concentrating hard on the last group as the light faded I managed this:

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    That's 10 shots into 14mm c-c and a core of 8 into 7mm c-c. From memory the best I've previously managed has been 16-17mm with my S410k and NJR100. Following a pretty crappy week of other stuff refusing to group even acceptably, this rifle has given me another reason to love it even more :D

    Plans are now for a larger ID barrel band to allow the barrel to float while still affording some protection, along with a sleeve of some die 6 Express, providing I can get hold of some :)
     
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  2. Ichabod Armacost

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    :cool::up::claping:nice one!
     
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  3. neiled

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    Wow, that really is fine shooting.........well done that man!
     
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  4. Sir Oscar

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    Very nice shooting.
    Hope you don't mind me asking but what club are you in? I'm in Oxfordshire too and looking for a club to join.
     
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    Wow, Sweet group, once you get past 40yards it really tests a rifle and pellets aswell as the shooter.
    You can see also consistency is key as your group is higher than it is wide.
    I can remember doing a 5shot group at 50m with a daystate huntsman in .22 which was under 1" edge to edge, but that wasn't that accurate of a rifle.

    With the weather like it is, this summer should be fun :)
     
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    trumpetier Pro Poster

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    Great shooting bud, as regard the larger ID barrel band, can you buy them or are you planning on making one ?
     
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    Nice group to be proud of there but that shiny new 2013 coin sort of upstages your group.
     
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    hmmmm, I suppose that's ok ;) :) lol .... good shooting , atb, rich.
     
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    nice grouping mate :cool:
     
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    nice grouping but yet again someone missed the coin :D
     
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    Good grouping well done that man!!! atb Paul.
     
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    Very nice grouping that, ive had exactly the same thoughts regarding the barrel band issue so all i did with mine was to remove the 2 grub screws, and then take some medium then fine wet and dry to the filler cover and take just enough off so when its tight there is no pressure from it on the barrel band.

    ATB Paul
     
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    Nice shooting there :up:
     
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    Yeah, fair do's, that's some great shooting there.
     
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    In the future, can you print your shot groups in a Cloverleaf pattern, in would be in keeping with the user name. LOL
     
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    I reccon that it's one of those big chocolate coins covered in silver foil ;)
     
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    Thanks guys :D

    Tbh I posted the group mainly to show how well the gun's shooting and express how pleased I am with it. Admittedly it takes a bit of skill to shoot off a rest, but really only in making sure the gun's stable, pointing in the right direction and that the trigger release is good. Since the rifle was put together from slightly fettled but largely standard Air Arms bits the credit really lies with the manufacturers - especially I suspect with the design and quality of the MPR barrel and breech setup :up:

    Thanks - will send you a PM ;)


    Ta - tbh I find around 1-1.25" is about the norm for most stuff at this range. IME going smaller than that requires excellent conditions, an above par gun and pellets that it likes; preferably sorted by weight and inspected for damage. Of course the slightest hint of a breeze and it will all inevitably go pear-shaped..


    Thanks :)

    Extremely irritatingly I do have somewhere a band to suit a 16mm OD barrel from an old S410E; which would be ideal if I could find it :mad: IIRC the only off-the-shelf items from AA are the crappy 12mm jobs for the standard S400 series or the 18mm ish items from the 500 series - although these won't fit as the barrel / cylinder centres are different.

    Assuming I can't find the one I've apparently hidden somewhere, I'll try and get another (I strongly suspect they became unavailable years ago) or failing that I might go for a Rowan band as they make them in a number of IDs.


    Thanks - didn't think of that, although I suspect part of the problem is that the cylinder is moving slightly as the pressure in it changes, influencing the barrel as it does so. Interestingly at 55yds the POI change when removing the band was only around 1" - I've seen a lot worse in the past and evidently the barrel on this rifle is pretty well aligned with everything else :)


    lol- I've been waiting for a suitable group to use as an avatar for ages.. might just go with this one though, as I doubt I'll ever shoot any better.
     
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    hello, it goes to show at 50 mtrs some air rifles can do well, i am not usualy shooting that far but have taken rabbits at 40/50mtrs with my FX and a heavy pellet but you need know the scope hold over well and a good shooting position or rifle rest, as for barrel bands i think many need fine adjustments, on my Brocock i had problems so i fixed a rubber seal in band slot and was sorted.
     
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    Hey that's great shooting, well done! with a group like that why not try 60yards!? Or 65.
     
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  20. Picklehoffer

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    I can only dream of grouping like that at that range! Nice one mate!
     
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