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Advice The age old question what should I get

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by igual88, Jun 11, 2014.

  1. igual88

    igual88 Donator

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    Heyas peeps just starting to save my pennies up for my first air rifle however the more I have read the less certain I am about what to go for
    I will only be backyard plinking and hopefully joining the rifle club in future as I have totally shot legs and no permissions in Devon (used to in Sussex before I moved had 200 acres deer and bunny had a sako 6.5 x 55 and a sako quad for bunny bashing)
    Had to give up my FAC due to the meds they have me on now for nerve damage.
    Initially I was looking at http://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk...ssor+inc+4-16x40+-a-8-f-3177+Standard+Barrel/
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    http://www.sportsmanguncentre.co.uk...55/BSA+Lightning+XL+SE+'2C177+Carbine+Barrel/

    However I am not against a secondhand rifle, I know I have chosen these in the .177 I have only ever shot a .22 springer before but from what I have read for target a 177 seems more logical I think?
    I would love as much advice as you can give am open to suggestions
    I will have a budget of 300 ish Max depending how much groveling I do with the ball and chain

    Totally on a side note I make chainmaille jewelry/armour if anyone needs something gimmie a shout 
     
  2. Cymru-Dave

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    HW77 for £40 more than your £300 budget
     
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    I'd sideline both of the options you have listed and go for something infinitely better in all respects on the used market.

    Provided you buy a good one you will get far more for your money and you will certainly better both of the above options by miles.

    If you are sure you will only ever be target shooting this presents a different set of problems to address than a hunting gun.

    Unless you have the urge for a carbine rifle you might want to consider something full length and with good open sights or the option to fit diopter sights.

    Some open sights make for incredibly accurate shooting out to surprising distances.

    One of the real 'benefits' to a longer gun is how much easier it can feel to cock, but this can be offset by slightly increased overall weight.

    First identify whether you like (or want) to go with a break barrel or underlever.

    Everyone will recommend what they have or what they want.

    What you need to do is find out what you feel comfy with. You can spend a fortune only to tussle with the gun if it doesn't shoulder well for you :(

    The usual suspects would include HW95 (great option if fitted with a barrel weight or a combined barrel weight/silencer), HW77 or TX200 if you can cope with the weight, CZ Slavia 630 makes a great inexpensive and lightweight break barrel option and they are easy to work on and fettle, Diana 34 is possibly the single best lightweight break barrel out there IMHO, etc, etc...

    Consider options, identify your requirements and shortlist based on them rather on what looks nice or what someone else likes.

    If it was me I'd look for an old HW77 and tune it or have it tuned. Add a scope and mounts and proceed to knock nails in all day long :)
     
  4. igual88

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    How easy is it to load pellets in the hw77 as I have sausage fingers and hands like shovels
    Also what sort of scope mounting system is used? As I will need to factor in scope mounts etc
    Weight of rifle is not much of an issue as I use crutches/wheelchair to get about have arms and
    shoulders a gorilla would be proud of. Being the wrong side of 18 St I can counterbalance quite well lol
     
  5. larryking28

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    It is easy enough once you have mastered it although it can be a bit annoying if you drop the pellet rather than getting it into the barrel as there is no easy way to get it out other than to turn the rifle upside down.
    HW77 has standard scope rails/grooves on it and a set of suitable mounts is about £10.
     
  6. Bigant

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    i had a 77 and loved it my huge sausage fingers could cope with loading it. and it was alot more accurate than me. you couldn't go wrong with one :) i now have a Tx and while its a lovely gun its a pain for me to load in .177 out the pair i would go for the HW for ease of loading and it was a little lighter.
     
  7. 177

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    I am 6' 4" and 230 pounds (devilishly handsome though ;) ).

    I manage the HW77 just fine, although I find weedy little .177 pellets more of an issue than the gun itself, especially on a cold day...

    The older TX200 is more of a challenge because the loading port isn't the full width of the gun.

    That said, the TX200 will shoot a little nicer than the HW77 assuming both guns are bog standard.

    I'd take an older 77 and fettle it - silky smooth and accuracy to rival a PCP :)
     
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    I'm slightly larger than the gent before and I have no issues with loading my 97, the 77 would be no problem after you shot 10 pellets, I could load with my eyes closed now.
     
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    Gent ?

    I've been called a lot of things, but...

    :)
     
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    Theres a really nice HW97KT just gone up in the wanteds for just a little more. :)
     
  11. Bigant

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    oh im 7 foot tall and of a large and manly build.. and i managed the 97/77 fine :) my tx is nicer to shoot but harder to load mostly due to the 177 pellets i suspect. that 97 in the adds looks a nice one though!
     

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