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Tempestuous times!

Discussion in 'Air Pistols' started by Tinbum, Sep 2, 2014.

  1. Tinbum

    Tinbum Delusions of adequacy

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    Part of me (the part that grew up drooling over airguns in my mums Gratton catalogue) has always loved Webley pistols. They're compact, tactile and have plenty of oomph for tin can hunting. I've had several in both calibres and currently have a rather tatty old .22. (The best one)

    Its been trotting along at just under 3fpe forever, but last week it took a real dive performance-wise. I placed an order with chambers for a few odds and sods along with a new piston washer for the Wobbly and it all arrived this morning. Work went out of the window, that could wait, I had a poorly pistol to fix!

    Its quite a fiddly pistol to strip, requiring the trigger mech to come out to remove the pistol. Its straight forward enough when you work out what goes where, but don't charge in, take your time!
    While it was apart I decided it needed a top hat to try and calm some recoil, the metal spring guide is part of the barrel pivot mech, so to make room I machined an inch off the length. The top hat I made up looks after that part of the spring as well as being a better fit, and a slip washer allows the spring to rotate freely as it expands. The new piston seal was placed atop the piston and the whole thing went back together.

    The cocking stroke is noticeably smoother, and the firing cycle is marginally better. Groups have tightened up at 8m though and the power has gone up by 0.6fpe to just over 3.5!:eek:

    I'm enjoying using this pistol so much I'm considering re-engineering the steel spring guide and replacing it with a tighter fitting delrin one. I might also get a brand new spring and see of I can raise it to the dizzy heights of 4+ ft/lb!!:D
     
  2. Andy-K2

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    And thats the joys of tinkering, and also having the tools and the know how... My brother in law is an engineer and he is always tinkering, even walks around with a micrometer/verineers in his pocket.. Enjoy Tinbum :up::cool:
     
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    darklord Can’t beat a tx200 at 30m

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    4fpe doudtful as theres so little compression cylinder space available. enjoy for what it is. mine are running at around 3ftlb. isn i would love to get one of mine up a bit but i love em as they are.

    what does improve them 100% is a lighter trigger spring.

    Ps how much fora couple of top hats.
     
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    Gratton! Now there's a name to conjure with! My mother had Kays, Freemans as well as Grattons. My time was divided equally between the women's underwear and the air rifle sections!

    Just out of interest which Webley do you have? I have just stripped and serviced my hurricane and it is shooting SO sweetly.
     
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    Tinbum Delusions of adequacy

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    A trigger polish is next on the list. I have the tempest, but I know where's there's a boxed hurricane with original scope rail and scope going cheap!

    The tophats are very experimental at the moment. Fitting any parts like that does require shortening/removal of the steel guide, but if anyone wants to tinker themselves, get in touch, a few quid for delrin and postage will cover it.
     
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    GRATTONS CATALOUGE TINBUM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D that takes me back a few years:rolleyes: was like the tv programme are you being served, ladies underwear department, and the mans of pages all that shooting stuff. cant remember what i looked at most;) i said few:confused: but must be 55 as old ratman is coming up to being a hunting pensioner:)
     
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    According to my crapulations my .22 Tempest is doing 3.5 fpe. I took about 10 readings from my Chrony F1 and found the average. Then took the weight of the 5.6mm Wasps I was shooting. Chucked all the info in the calculator on the Pyramid Air website and Bob's your Aunty.

    I haven't done anything to it since I bought it from the sales section here. Generally I got the idea from reviews online that you'd be lucky to get more than 3 fpe out of it, but I had to check.
     
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    If I had some proper wasps, or even Hobby's, I would check to see of I got slightly more. The older barrels don't get on too well with modern pellets.
     
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    I got my first rifle (Webley Vulcan in .22) from my Mum's 'John England' book. Happy days.
     
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    5.6mm pellets actually get lower muzzle energy in my 54 year old meteor.
     
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    Strangely enough, my Tracker enjoys the horrible new wasps! Getting 11 FPE now whereas with 5.52 Exacts it was 9.1 FPE!

    The old 5.6 mm barrels can be rather fussy ...
     
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    What's accuracy like though? The new wasps are the only thing I ever read about in one of the magazine reviews where even they said they were poo!
     
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    Blimey! They must actually have missed the barrel!!:eek:
     
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    Ah, now accuracy, that's another matter! In all fairness if you weigh out a number of them and ensure the skirts are okay, the accuracy will be fair to poor. But then the Tracker was never known for its accuracy...
     
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    Webley pistols don't need a barrel - It just slows the pellet down without adding to accuracy.... :nana::laff:
     

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