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Tackling jackdaws?

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by brettguise, Feb 21, 2012.

  1. brettguise

    brettguise Busy Member

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    Farmers asked me to get rid of some jackdaws that are breaking through the netting of his 4,000 pheasants in pens. Was wondering the best way to get them as the pens cover the entire field and I wouldn't know where to start or attract them to the one area. He says they are eating all the eggs so I wondered if a type of egg decoy or something would work. I'm off tomorrow so would like some advice what the best plan of attack would be!
     
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    A crow or magpie decoy will bring them in range mate. I use one of those ACME crow calls and they respond well to that to.
     
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    Thanks for your help. Went and grabbed a couple of crow decoys whilst at work. Wicked being so close to the local haha. Setting up about half 6-7 in the morning with a small hide. Hopefully have a good morning!
     
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    They won't be eating pheasant eggs for about another month, pheasants start to lay mid march and carry on until mid June. They will be after the layers pellets. Near feeders or spilt pellets would be good places to hide up, as would near any trees or barns they sit on before going down to feed. You could take some stiff wire so you can peg out the first one you shoot as a decoy. The crow decoys may pull them in or put them off? They don't work for me. 4000 layers that's some operation. Good luck Andy
     
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    Cheers Andy. He said they were laying now :S don't know but I presume they will be around anyway. I'll look for the feeders and spilt pellets along the wooded side. Is it best to put one in a tree say 15 yards down the side of the wood and then one in front of me a good yardage out? I didn't know how best to put a decoy of its high netting wether to place one on top? I'll try the crow in hope it works.
     
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    I would watch for a bit for holes in the netting trees they are using or feeders they use and set up 40 yards from there. I would keep the decoys away from the shooting area if they get too near the decoys they will twig something is wrong. Make your hide as high as you can it will be better to shoot the birds on top of the pens. Cheers andy
     
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    Crow decoys when after Jackdaws have not worked for me. The best decoy for jackdaws is another Jackdaw but they must be presented in a lifelike manner, Jackies are very smart. the best way I have found to do this is to cut a thin strong stick (Hazel) 6 inches longer than a Jackdaw, sharpen both ends. Push the stick via the anal orfice carefully all the way through it,s body and into the base of the skull. The decoys can now be stuck into the ground at strategic points, making sure there are no ruffled feathers or loose feathers nearby. Pick up shot dead birds only after flock is out of sight and re-position decoys adding to as more the merrier. It is imperative you are well concealed, ideally inside a building in shadow, suitable covering for gun face and hands is a must. Changing location is useful as well. The best time of day to do this is to be set up and waiting no later than one and a half hours after sunrise. You are not likely to achieve great success as Jackdaws will soon weigh up your set up. The best way to eliminate them is to wait and catch them coming in to roost again being well hidden with well moderated gun. The hardest bit is getting a couple of decoys to start with, but you may be able to do this around farm buildings where they are used to seeing human traffic.
     
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    I,m surprised that with such a large set-up he isn,t using something like a funnel or letterbox type trap baited with bread near the pen!
    He,d be killing a good few with that although it would have to be checked daily
     
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    My old Gfriends Granddad used to hang dead jackdoors arround the pen. They used to rot right down to the bone, but he swore it kept the others away.
     
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    Works for a while for sure but it would depend if there is any public access within sight of the pen as this could cause problems
     
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    He just used to poke their heads through the fencing of the pen and let them hang. Already dead of coarse. I guess if anyone said anything he would just claim that they had got stuck which trying to get into his pens.

    Anyway, it probably isnt what you want to do, as shooting is far better sport!

    Good luck & Happy Hunting
     
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    Went today with some crow decoys but didnt know where the hell to start! I decided after watching for a while that they were landing on a large patch of grass to the side of the pens. I moved and made a quick shelter from hay. I couldn't get any of them to land or catch any flying near the pens. I laid two decoys in the wind one at 30 yards and one at 35. I got a pigeon to land approx 60 yards he flew off before he moved any closer. Would 10 pigeon decoys and 2 crows bring all the birds in and I could just pick off the priority list?
     
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    Know what you,re saying re:shooting them but how does not trying other methods sit with the current licensing laws?
     
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    It is not a good idea to have a load of rotting birds next to your laying pheasants. Disease risk. I too know of old keepers that did such things but it wold not be the done thing today. You could just see that photo on an anti website. I would forget decoying and set up near the food supply. Better luck next time Andy
     
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    You don't have to try other methods if they are not practical.

     
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    Theirs a good 20 acres of pens alone I don't know what food source would be best to set up hide.
     
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    Are they not getting through the netting in just a few places and using feeders near the holes? Maybe close up some holes first if there are lots of holes. They normally learn where a hole is and just use that rather than make more. Cheers Andy
     
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    If he doesn't mind, and your not making a mess, boil some wheat up and put it out a few nights over a couple of weeks in a spot you can snipe from. They go mental for soft wheat. Also keep still when you drop one, they'll come mob it.
     
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    I've found decoys don't work for me, if you use a recently shot bird the others will come back but hover it calling, when there's no call back they go again. Concealment and patience is the only thing that works for me, you could try getting a bunny first then leaving its guts in your shooting area, this has worked a few times for me in the past. These are an intelligent quarry, variation is key and build hide, leave it alone for a few days (they'll be watching you build it) then come back with gun hidden under jacket. Don't retrieve any shot birds until the others are out of sight. I reckon they've now got to the point when they see my van they know I'm there and I end up being an unpaid scarecrow :(
    Get settled in you position at least an hour or 2 before they roost, they'll come in to feed for a top up before they go to bed.
    Oh and get ready for the screaming when you take one, feels like something out of a Hitchcock film
     
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    I to have a problem with jackdaws and magpies, the trouble is the field net to the barn has very happy and friendly horses in, who would livove to get in the hide with you (farmer rents that field just for horse's) to the other side is a path and across the path is a very large unused barn, to the front of the barn is the road. But its also experiance with me as i have not been for a year yet.
     

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