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SUPER EASY - Quality Watec build for people that don't like making stuff.

Discussion in 'Night Vision Optics and Illumination' started by Yogi GunKanobee, Jul 2, 2012.

  1. Yogi GunKanobee

    Yogi GunKanobee Engaging Member

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    Few words, not many needed as it is very simple.

    I didn't work this out myself. It's just putting together ideas I got from other people. For example -

    Camera - Ken (DIY NV God)
    Torch info from nobbybonez
    25mm lens from walken and some bloke
    Pulsar DSA from weebster

    So thanks to those guys, and the guys they got their ideas from.

    First the parts.

    I've managed to get them all without ordering anything from China.

    Nothing from China!!!!!!!
    Camera – Israel,
    Torch host – Hong Kong,
    Dropin – USA.
    All the rest from the UK

    You could save a few quid. I've choosen a battery from the uk, though yould get a battery from China for £10 (a long wait to see if your battery works), use waste pipe or similar and lens cap instead of the Pulsar mount, £5. You could also get a screen from China for £12.50, if you think it is worth waiting 4 weeks in order to save a couple of quid! Also here is a suggestion from Flykilla -

    I've not tried one, but it's an option. :)

    I've gone for speed, and quality within reason, and ease of build.
    [TABLE="width: 259"]
    [TR]
    [TD]Camera, Lens and display[/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Camera + p+p [/TD]
    [TD]£85.21[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Lens[/TD]
    [TD]£23.99[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Right Angle Phono Plug[/TD]
    [TD]£5.00[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Power lead[/TD]
    [TD]£3.04[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Screen [/TD]
    [TD]£15.33[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Battery -12v[/TD]
    [TD]£30.99[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]
    Mounts
    [/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]torch mount - figure 8[/TD]
    [TD]£7.19[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Pulsar DSA+ P&P[/TD]
    [TD]£35.94[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]Scope mount for screen[/TD]
    [TD]£5.00[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]
    Torch
    [/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]torch host[/TD]
    [TD]£16.00[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]torch battery[/TD]
    [TD]£5.95[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]torch dropin[/TD]
    [TD]£36.00[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD][/TD]
    [TD][/TD]
    [/TR]
    [TR]
    [TD]total[/TD]
    [TD]£269.64[/TD]
    [/TR]
    [/TABLE]


    To be continued..........
     
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  2. Yogi GunKanobee

    Yogi GunKanobee Engaging Member

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    Screen, camera, lens and battery.

    Not much say about this bit...screw the lens into the camera! You can see the screen cable prepared.:)

    [​IMG]

    Before you wire it all up, work out how you want to mount the screen and torch. There are many ways, but here is the simplest. Just make sure you order the correct size torch mount for your scope, 25mm or 30mm body. BTW, if you decide to use one of the "Ebay lasers, or the Odicforce one, get a mount with a 18mm whole.

    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  3. gotta go tactical

    gotta go tactical Posting Addict

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    I feel a sticky comin' on please Mr Mod....:D
     
  4. Yogi GunKanobee

    Yogi GunKanobee Engaging Member

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    Wire up the lead. I took pix after I'd finished, so I'll make another one in a few days, with pix.

    [​IMG]
     
  5. Yogi GunKanobee

    Yogi GunKanobee Engaging Member

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    And now the bit I really like, the Pulsar DSA! It makes it so easy, and it even has a nice bag to protect your kit. I don't need to tell you how it works because when you get it, it's just obvious.

    [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  6. Yogi GunKanobee

    Yogi GunKanobee Engaging Member

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    The last bit, the IR torch. I started of with the Ebay laser from Kens list, which is ok, but this one is a differnt kettle of fish. Check the link in the first post for details.

    [​IMG]
     
  7. Yogi GunKanobee

    Yogi GunKanobee Engaging Member

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    Attach the torch mount on your scope, Put the torch in the mount, mount the screen on the torch mount, stick the camera / DSA on the end of your scope, plug everything in and turn on the battery. Simples!

    [​IMG] [​IMG]


    Cable pix to come, and maybe a few pix on a gun....................
     
  8. kenhawker

    kenhawker Honorary Member

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    Night vision God my butt, ide look abit closer to home if I were you mate.
     
  9. Flykilla

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    Nice one Yogi, brilliant thread. Good on you for making it very easy for people and doing this step by step. Just wish you had done it 6 weeks ago...:)
     
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    What distance are you getting with this set up ?
     
  11. some bloke

    some bloke Busy Member

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    Very good simple to follow thread. You've all seen the low end market stuff and the improvements to make them more useable for further ranges.

    This is straight to the top end of the market, as you can see you pays yer money and makes yer choice. The end result is a low cost home brew that performs as well as, and even surpasses some professional ones costing well over twice as much.
     
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    One thing Yogi, would it not be better to have the 4.3 inch screen instead of this 3.5 0ne?

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-3-Inch-LCD-TFT-Monitor-for-Car-Backup-camera-VCR-DVD-UK-Stock-Free-Shipping-/120938009519?pt=UK_In_Car_Technology&hash=item1c287793af

    Same size over all, but with a bigger picture..
     
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  13. Yogi GunKanobee

    Yogi GunKanobee Engaging Member

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    There is no way that this screen has 1440x272 pixels- the seller is either telling porkies, or, more likely he doesn't know what he's speaking about.
    All the 3.5 and 4.3 screen selling at these prices have 320x240 pixels
    I'm not sure the bigger screen will make it better since they both have the same number of pixels.
    This means that on the bigger screen each pixel is larger than on the smaller screen.
    How sharp the picture on the screen appears to our eyes is largely down to pixel size. The smaller the pixels, the better the image, so, in general, bigger pixels will give an image which appears less sharp.
    The advantage of the bigger screen is that you can see it clearly from a longer distance than the smaller screen. Depending on your set up that may or may not be an advantage

    Cheers

    Bruce

    Cheers

    Bruce
     
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    The pixel thing has been discussed before and you are correct, they are either all missinformed or blatently lying. I also saw that some of them also have "HD Monitor" as a title, which is a slight porky.

    Reason for me mentioning it is that I have the screen that Yogi posted originally and it is good, but I did find the picture very small. It had a slight impact on my ability to see very small objects. The screen I mentioned is as near as damn it, the same size, but instead of just a 3.5" it has a 4.3", so why not have a marginally picture?

    Its just a suggestion. And I do not mean to hijack this thread.
     
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    Yogi, built this set up for me !! very pleased, its in the post and i will report on how it get on ASAP..

    BIG THANKS to YOGI, as he dident have to do this for me.. restores my faith in people as he did all this in good faith... CHEERS BUDDY...
     
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    Yogi GunKanobee Engaging Member

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    I was thinking about pix for the wiring of the cable, and I realised that if you knew how to solder, you would probably be able to sort the cable out yourself.

    On the other hand, the setup would be very easy to put together without any soldering, just not quite so neat. So,all you need to plug every thin together is -

    A splitter cable
    A male to male lead - 15cm.
    or here is a 25cm lead

    [​IMG]

    Then the only DIY bit is mounting the screen on the mount - drill two holes. :)
     
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    hun73r666 Keyboard Hero

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    I have ordered the 4.3" screen and am currently using Kens originally suggested 3.5" screen. I will let you all know if there is any improvment in picture quality!
     
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    Yogi,
    Is the 25mm lens you used adjustable and does it need an adaptor, don't want to buy one that's not compatible with my scopes :confused:

    Just ordered my Watec, it had to happen :eek:
     
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    Can I ask this question again to save me from buying the wrong lense:)
     

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