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Stupid Newbie Question?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by mdc124, Jun 13, 2014.

  1. mdc124

    mdc124 Newbie

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    Can anyone tell me if it is normal that a PCP air rifle can be fired when the bolt is not engaged (fully or at all)

    Thanks

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  2. mattyts

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    What do you mean by engaged?

    It cannot be fired unless it's cocked but it can be fired if the gun is cocked but the bolt is not pushed back in.
     
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    mdc124 Newbie

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    Fully cocked, but then either the bold not pushed back, or not locked in position.

    I think from your answer it is 'yes' that's normal

    thanks
     
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    Yes that's normal,also if you hold back the bolt and pulling the trigger,slowly releasing the bolt tension you can un-cock the rifle.
     
  5. SteveO

    SteveO Top Poster

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    Thanks for that Matty, was one of those questions I kept forgetting to ask anyone.

    Also does it damage the gun firing it with the probe in the back position? as I've forgotten to shove one up the pipe a few times and heard a funny plunk as the bolt shoots forward and loads one! :S
     
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    I think firing guns like S400s with the bolt back could cause damage because the hammer assembly has to move the bolt too,although I don't know the S400s inside so I'm just guessing.

    With MMC Ultras,the probe isn't connected to the firing assembly,it's there to seat the pellet and provide a seal so firing with it open will just result in air coming out of the TP and going in both directions because the probe isn't there to provide a seal.
     
  7. Chinnymonster81

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    You can fire the S400 series with the bolt fully open but the hammer will strike the cocking bolt(cap head machine screw) and drive the bolt forward. It will just cause extra unnecessary force on the cocking bolt and may damage the breech seal. If its not fully closed the same will happen but it will be less noticeable and the shot would lose power as some of the air will blow back through the breech. Probably won't cause any problems if you make the mistake once in a while, but if its a regular occurrence then something will break eventually.
     

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