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Stoeger X20S .22

Discussion in 'Airgun Reviews' started by BrettMRC, Jun 10, 2015.

  1. BrettMRC

    BrettMRC Donator

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    After being stuck on a conference call for best part of 13 hours, and idly googling springers and gas rams - I decided to nip upto my local dealer and get myself a little pick me up for the weekend.

    I had a list of possibilities that included: Hatsan 85x, Stoeger X20, BSA Lightning GRT (inspite of the dire warnings), Gamo Rocket IGT or possibly a cheaper Weihrauch. The intention was not to spend more than £300 as this was just to give me a bit of fun :)

    In the end I went for the X20S purely because it felt well made and I couldn't knock the price at £140. (Probably cheaper elsewhere online, but that doesn't help with impulse buying!)

    Worth noting there was no Hatsan 85x available to look at.

    Unboxed it earlier and spent some time getting the pellets going in roughly the right direction. The scope isn't too bad as long as you pay no attention to the range finder - it's about as accurate as WW2 strategic bombing...

    Overall I'm pretty impressed with it, the other half likes it more than her Meteor so no doubt it will be pressed into Magpie duties while I'm at work!

    Out of the box it seems quite quiet, although noise is quite dependant on pellet fit - I have been using RWS superdomes and noticed some variation as the evening wore on, but overall it's been quiet. (on three occasions it boinged, but I suspect this was down to some iffy pellets being used out of a dropped tin)

    My accuracy is rubbish anyway at the moment - but I was grouping within 25mm at 35yards which is good for me regardless of the gun!

    Will update the thread as it gets used more.

    Stoeger X20S after 50 pellets.jpg

    :)
     
  2. kal el

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    i like them, canny little set up for not alot of money, i had a cammo one:up:
     
  3. RichieRich

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    You'll find your accuracy will improve with the addition of a Welsh Willy Trigger. The standard one doesn't really give you any feedback when you pull it, the WW trigger however, will give you a better 2-stage feel and a more predictable release, which will give you better shots on target :)
     
  4. BrettMRC

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    Quick update:

    After the first 200 pellets, (bored saturday afternoon!) the accuracy went wild - without any kit here to bench test it I went back to the dealer and and asked them for some assistance as I wasn't sure if it was a) Me b) The Scope or c) Me & the scope.
    Turned out it was probably mostly my lack of experience in diagnosing an issue with the scope. So, slightly wiser and a little red in the face I went back and had another play.

    Rest of the tin went through and proved without question that a) I'm still not a great shot and b) The X20S isn't a bad buy.

    I'm going to look for a chrono soon to see how it is performing now it's had pound of lead through it.

    :)

    (Quick edit to add: as mentioned in a post above, the trigger is shocking - like pushing string up a cats arse)
     
  5. billy-the-kid

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    Good post. the stoeger is a very capable air gun.

    I own on in .22 also i have been shooting .22 for most of my life and when i purchased this rifle found my grouping to be off a tad try different pellets, im currently using the BSA Elite and find them to be within a 5p - 10p at 35yrds depending on conditions... so try a few diffrent pellet types. also the stoeger for a springer does have a bit of a kick to it compared with others on the market so can contribute to the odd wild shot. keep with it for the price is an excellent quality rifle
    Ive fitted a decent quality bipod to mine also
     
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    Well if it's grouping within 25mm at 35 yds that's pretty good for a springer considering its price and it's new gun out of the box,personally I wouldn't expect any great improvement on that other than to try different pellets to see which suits the gun best.You can buy sample packs from Richard(richardscar) a member on here he does a whole range.I believe you can buy a trigger mod that improves the trigger pull which also may help.I you 're consistently grouping 25mm at 35yds with a brand new gun that you've never shot before,a springer as well,then there's not much wrong with your shooting.:)
     
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  7. BrettMRC

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    Now you've done it - I will never hit anything again now! lol! :D
     
  8. wilderbeest

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    OK chaps, I have a synthetic x20s, and have found the following;
    As said the Welsh Willy trigger will improve things, immensely. But the following will change things completely.
    There is no 'lead in' (land) ie; tiny chamfer on the breech end of the barrel. it needs one, so get a countersink tool or similar,
    and BY HAND ONLY, just take the sharp edge of the above, so the pellet sits completely inside the bore before you close it up. Consistency and accuracy will
    improve instantly. I have now done this to six of these, and every one has improved beyond compare. Without it pellets get their skirts clipped /mangled upon closure.
    If you can change the spring to a Titan xs (not an ox), and 'Delrin ' top hat and guide. the transformation will be complete.
    The only pellets that 'we' can get consistency with are , Air Arms Diablo. And that's with all of them.
     
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    Where are they made? Looking at the price of air rifles now which seem mad compared to when I used them back in the 70's and 80's it looks a bargain.
     
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    Italian designed and engineered, produced in China.
     
  11. Epicpianokid

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    I have a synthetic stock .177 stoeger x20s, How did you fit your bipod onto it? And does the bipod affect accuracy, as I have heard it isn't very good to put a bipod on a springer, is it the case with the x20? also have you got any pictures please?

    Thanks :)
     
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    wilderbeest, after these upgrades, how consistent is it? And how much do you think it would cost from a gunsmith to get those upgrades done that you mentioned? as I have no tools or anything for that, nor would I want to risk it lol :p
     
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    Sorry for a ton of questions everyone, but what do you guys think the best pellets are for the Stoeger x20S? I have the .177 version. I'm going to get more pellets in soon, and I usually shoot Crossman pellets, and I have found them to be not very consistent past 20 yards, Unless its me haha
     
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    My mate has the .177 and uses Air Arms 4.52mm @ 8.44grn with good results but probably best to test a few they all differ :up:
     
  15. SteveO

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    There are no silly questions mate, only silly people who don't ask them, so fire away!

    I use RWS Superdomes in my .22 to good effect, just another you could try, and they are cheap as chips. ;)
     
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    When i had mine a few years ago, Superdomes were the order of the day, followed by H&N FTT
     
  17. Epicpianokid

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    I'll try them then :)
     
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    I'd recommend binning the scope it comes bundled with - IIRC mine lasted about 80 shots before the reticule jumped. (Can be reset easily enough but its a faff)
     
  19. wilderbeest

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    If you look at the underside of Superdomes m you wil see they have quite a thick skirt on the pellet.
    This helps them to maintain their shape when being handled etc , but its not good news when the released air cannot
    make the skirt expand. So i use Falcon Accuracy plus .
     

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