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Question Stocks . . And The Wood There Made From

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Rincewind666, Aug 11, 2018.

  1. Rincewind666

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    Hi all , I was just wondering why most guns have stocks made from beech and walnut only . . . Is there a reason other woods are not used? I ask as I make stocks and grips and alot of my overseas customers ask for alsorts of exotic and strange woods and I have to say I've made some amazing looking gear for them with great grains and patterns . . . So why is the UK mainly geared towards beech or walnut? I made myself an oak cp2 stock as the grain looked lovely and it oiled up great too. I'm making another from bloodwood and maybe some cherry/apple if I find a nice cut.
     
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    Pics please:D
     
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    I have some in the tech section, and some on my work laptop, I was real curious to why these 2 woods are used and not alot of the other great looking woods I work with
     
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    I would imaging it’s to do with cost and availability
     
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    Well I get access to alot of rare wood and I get a real good deal on it too, I'm thinking of just making 4 blanks out of real exotic wood and showing them here . . . I'll make one a HW80 and one a cp2 . . . And leave the others blank in case someone want one making.
     
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    And weight.
    Some of the more exotic timbers are far denser and heavier.
    Walnut offers a much more attractive grain pattern and often lighter than beech.

    Both would have been sourced in the UK in days gone by.
     
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    This is bocote (Mexican rosewood). I brought this a few days ago . . . The pattern is amazing . . . I'm going to make a cp2 grip and cp2 stock from this
     

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    That looks interesting. Looking forward to seeing the results.
     
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    Didn't they use maple on Kentucky muskets? That looked nice.
     
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    I would imagine sustainability is a major factor these days, I'm guessing Beech are easy and fast to grow?

    Also, I presume wood for factory produced rifles would need to be durable and easy to machine and work with, which I'm guessing is the case with Beech?
     
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    Well what about people who get custom stocks . . . Like css stocks? They could get any wood in the world but always seems to be the normal few? If I was spending £170+ on a stock of want something special . . . A rare wood kind of thing. I'm only asking as I plan on making stocks from these woods and wondered if they would sell in the uk like they sell in other country's. I have 4 different rare woods coming this week. I'll post pics as I get them and make them
     
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    Very interesting i suppose i would be interested for the wood in the pic how much do you think a stock would cost if you could do them for £250 i should think you would sell many. One of them to me.
     
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    I read that they don't use oak for gunstocks because the tannin in the wood will rust and pit the metal. mite be worth keeping a eye on if you already have the action already mounted in the oak stock you made ?
     
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    English Walnut has a nice grain/colour
     
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    I suspect it's a combination of cost, availability, weight, how stable the wood is and so forth. My experience with buying woodturning blanks has shown me how some woods are priced way above what you might think.

    Another thing to consider is how some woods affect metal. For instance, and from bitter experience, olive wood is lovely to look at, but will ruin the metalwork of a lathe bed and turning gouges if you don't clean it off. I dread to think what it would do to the action of a gun. :eek: :facepalm:
     
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    I like different types of wood for stocks, but its often price and weight that stops people using it, i have seen some fantastic woods as i sometimes make knives, but some can be three times as heavy as walnut or beach, made an American ash stock for my Coyote, but although it looked good it made an already heavy rifle heavier, so i am going to use Coloured laminate for my next one.

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    Cost, mass, availability, sustainability, aesthetics, dimensional stability (with respect to moisture and temperature), ease of processing.. note that the sap of some woods can also be damaging to blued steel, as I believe is the case with Oak.
     
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    shouldnt make stocks out of oak! contains nasty tanins that can cause rust
     
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    Much would depend on the price I should think...

    Interested in seeing the ‘80’ stock I must say... :thumb:
     
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    I once turned a wine glass out of oak, filled it with whiskey and discovered that the grain consists of a series of tubes along the length.
    The damn thing leaked almost a quick as I could drink it!:facepalm:
     

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