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Stock Refinishing

Discussion in 'Shotguns (SGC)' started by eradic8r, Jan 18, 2021.

  1. eradic8r

    eradic8r Engaging Member

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    I'm about to do some stock work on an old S/S I was given and need some advice. The stock has been oil finished by the previous owner however the chequering was left so is still a shiny varnish. What is the best way to clean up the chequering? Didn't want to spoil things by scraping at it.
    Cheers guys
     
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    I use a brass wire brush, I bought in a set of 3 S/Steel, brass & stiff bristle,, only go in one direction at a time, & paint stripper if varnish finish.
     
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    A decent paint stripper, work it in with a paintbrush and then remove it with a stiff nail brush under running water.
    The chequering should not be oiled when you refinish the stock, a light single coat of alkanet will suffice.
     
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    I have on many occasions stripped the stock left the chequering as it was and oiled over the finish that was there and it was not possible to tell. If you wish to remove it Brass suade brush and good stripper.
     
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    So why wouldn't you oil the chequering? It's very obviously varnished and looks odd with the nice oiled stock.
     
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    Because that’s the bit you grip the gun with, no other.
    When I spoke with my gunsmith prior to refinishing a stock (and I assure you he does know his business) he was very adamant that you never oil the chequering, a light coat of alkanet so it differs in colour and stand out and that was it.
    Oily chequering can slip in your hand.
    Finished stock, note difference. 7E62A4DC-D7A8-418F-B9A3-6FDC0F1E444A.jpeg
     
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    @DUNKS is a bit of a whiz with renovating more senior guns. Give him a shout!
     
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    I dont do it normally but in the early days when removing the Laquer in the chequering I found that the stripper I was using was not up to the job. I stained back the tiny bit it had removed to match and oiled the chequering and it dried with the rest and you could not tell other than it contrasted with the rest of the gun because i stained it quite pale. Several people commented on the nice contrast. This is it. Thats one of those dreadful 95's sitting in it with a Shauny Barrel Sleeve. :) upload_2021-1-19_10-54-16.jpeg
     
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    Makes sense now, never looked at it like that. Thanks for the valuable advice guys
     
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    Thanks Mr Burpster. I would argue that you DO need to have some wood protection in the chequering. If you strip out the varnish as advised. and I would go along with that, you do not want bare wood in the raw fibres of the chequering. It has been suggested that you dont want an oily finish there as your hand might slip. You just dont want any part of the stock finished and wet with oil.
     
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    An old London stock maker who gave me instruction on hand oiled best London finish.

    Said much the same but a cotton bud dipped in teak oil and pressed to the checkering. It runs along itself like capillary action. Soaks in and cures protecting the wood and leaving it sharp and grippy.

    Nothing worse than seeing a guns checkering full of finish.
     
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    Looks like a nice browning or Miroku with drop points stock.
     
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    Miroku circa 1979 3800 SW.
    :thumb:.
     
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    Chequering that has not been oiled is a means of water ingress into the wood surface. At its worse it could swell the wood and prevent the action internals from correctly working or make the chequered diamonds that soft that they can be rubbed off with the hand. Use raw linseed oil as any excess that has not been absorbed on the panels can be wiped off whereas boiled can go gummy and clog up the cuts.
     
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    Mostly Tosh rubbed of with hand. Please.
     
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    And what is the alkanet steeped in to extract the colour, linseed oil !!!
     
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    A linseed oil finish on a gun stock is not wet with oil if it has been correctly applied. The oil soaks into the wood surface and being in contact with air, oxidises and sets hard, that's why once the stock has absorbed as much as it can it is put aside to harden.
    Chequering should be coated with raw linseed and allowed to be absorbed, it will not fill the cuts and clog them up, it will harden within the diamonds and keep any water out.
    If oiling of the chequering was not required as a preservative measure why would manufacturers go to the trouble of doing it. Below is a photo of a quality gun that has had its stock finished properly with the chequering obviously finished as the rest of the stock. It will not slip or let water in so I suggest anyone who tells you not to oil the chequering is giving bad advice.

    [​IMG]
     
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    One small amount, ie a couple of drops on a toothbrush worked in and that’s it, not the quantity you will be working into the stock for weeks on end.
    Ok !!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Yes, it must be, otherwise the parts of the stock most susceptible to water ingress will not be protected. That's why raw linseed is used, it does not go gummy.
     
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    When giving advice you have to be very clear as some are thick as two short planks and think more is better.
    I've seen some guns and they look like they been dipped in true oil like a candle, the diamonds are visible only in strong light.
    I mask off the checkering on my stocks and then only oil the checkering when the stock is done ready to stand and cure
     
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