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Advice Stock Refinishing help please

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Chippy1988, Mar 20, 2014.

  1. Chippy1988

    Chippy1988 Busy Member

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    Hi everyone,

    I'm struggling here a bit, I'm trying to refinish a beech s10 stock but it seems with the old finish removed the stock is two colours! I know in the pic the checkering is damaged but I have bought the cutter to re-do that.
    What I would like to know is there any tricks to even out the colour? I have currently been sanding it with 60grit emery cloth.

    Thanks in advance

    James
     
  2. Jackroadkill

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    That looks to me like it's the old finish still in there - how did you remove it? If all you have done is sand it there's a good chance that there's still a lot of it in the grain of the wood. You'll need to get some chemical varnish remover and scrub it out. Caustic soda will do it (but wear rubber gloves and don't get it on your skin!), and old-stlye Nitromors (not the new cack they sell as Nitromors) will be fine as well - pat it into the grain and scrub it with a plastic pan scourer or fine-ish wire wool.
     
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    Looks like the oil/finish has penetrated the wood deeper than it would be effective to sand,get some nitromors,gloves and plenty of news paper :)
     
  4. Chippy1988

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    Thanks for the replies so far, I should have said I have used several types of paint stripper. These include nitromors green, wilkinsons own brand, Strypit paint and varnish remover and caustic soda (the caustic soda is some rum stuff). I used a brillo pad after the paint stripper then the emery cloth.

    do you think if I use more it will draw the old finish out?

    James
     
  5. vitalich

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    sanding and sanding down to flat colour

    or restain in dark colour
     
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    Can you put some of the finish on the stock in a small place? ideally where the colour changes,I have a feeling once the stock is darkened by the finish,it might blend in?
     
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    basically wanted to re-stain to a darker colour, but I heard beech is hard to get an even finish. This is why I was hoping to start with an even finish, if I knew it would blend in then I wouldn't mind.

    James
     
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    It's not too easy to see from your pix because they're both taken from the same angle, but it looks like the end grain is darker. This is typical of beech, the end grain seems to soak up stain more deeply. You could try just bleaching the dark areas, but like Mattyts said it will blend in far better when it's been given an overall staining and oiling.

    I've refinished two beech stocks, and while you'll never make it look like highly-figured walnut it will look far better than a crap varnish finish.

    PS - I'd go easy with the 60 grit emery if I were you - you'll end up with a matchstick :eek:
     
  9. Chippy1988

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    here's some more pics if you can see what I mean. I just want an even finish ha ha

    James
     
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    That should come up fine - let us know how you get on with the chequering :up:
     
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    I wouldn't worry too much about it if you're staining anyway. I did one recently and from your pics I had similar variation in mine. Patches where there was probably some remnants of stain, and some patches which looked grey. They could be sanded out but I was worried id end up with a bland bit of timber. I thought the variation would ensure it kept some character. Here it is sanded:
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    And finished
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  12. Chippy1988

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    These two pics show it more so, I appreciate the replies so far. I guess as this is my first stock I might just be trying too much.

    James
     
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    Now that's nice! I know it's not to everyone's taste, but I like an oil finish on beech.
     
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    That's fine mate. Same colouration as mine. Just get in with sanding it down smooth as glass, stain, then oil.
     
  15. Chippy1988

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    Thanks for the replies, I will get on with sanding till smooth then. I will also post my progress too.

    atb James
     
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    I'm just just considering stain and oil options on my first refurb a beech S410 stock, just finished the sanding with 1000 grit and a tac cloth I had the same issue with my stock as you I just kept sanding I got rid of it all except on the grain ends but even there I got it almost the same colour.
    Just keep plugging away, but with maybe 120 grit as 60 grit is really abrasive, once you finish with the 60 grit your left with some fairly deep scratches :)
     
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    Yeah I will keep at it, and give it another go. It is a project anyway, ive had the gun a couple of weeks and not even shot it yet, will keep everyone updated

    James
     
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    Really nice finish on that there stock bud. and some sound advice too.:up:
    What oil did you use?
     
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    Praise indeed from you mate.

    It's wet and dry sanded with progressively finer grades down to 1200 or 1500 grit, then stained with Indian Rosewood dye, and seven coats of Danish oil over a 7 day period.
     
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    Get the electric sander out James lol
     

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