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Question Starting out

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by RyRy, Apr 2, 2014.

  1. RyRy

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    Hi,

    For a while now I've wanted to take up air rifle shooting for both target practice and vermin control. I've been doing research on air gunning in general for a while now including laws and guidelines etc.
    I've fired air rifles before but never actually owned my own. I'm far from an expert shot but I wouldn't class myself as a novice either. Looking for a rifle to start me out as I have a four month straight period coming up before I start my basic training for the army and I need something to keep me going. I'm going to be staying at my girlfriends during that time (dads been posted to Germany again so I'm staying over here to save going over to come back again) and she lives in the middle of a countryside surrounded by fields so air gunning seems like the perfect pass time.
    I'm currently looking at getting either the Gamo Shadow DX .22 with a 3-9x40 scope or a Gamo Whisper X .22 with said scope as well. I'm aware both rifles will have their ups and downs but I was wondering if anyone else has an opinion on either rifle or whether I should go for a different one altogether?

    Many thanks (sorry for the essay),

    Ryan.
     
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    Hi Ryan. Welcome along to THE forum. Not much of a Gamo fan myself, why not a BSA Ultra, or an AAS410 both good to start you off into this great sport. atb Paul.
     
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    Thank you. I'd love to spend more on a rifle, but due to the move, last night was my last shift at work and therefore my wage at the end of this week will be the last till I manage to find something else to keep me going for four months (job was working on the base I live currently and as of next week I'd have no way of getting here so had to pack it in unfortunately). So on a bit of a budget at the moment, although not to the extent that I'll end up getting something that will fall apart after it's seen a few hundred pellets.

    Thank you again though and I'll keep those rifles in mind in case I decide to splash a little more cash!


    Ryan
     
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    Loving the Dukes motto at the bottom as well but it's Virtutis (;
     
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    That's what it says Virtutis!!!! ex duke.
     
  6. RyRy

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    Me Dad's Dukes, well, 1 Yorks now.
     
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    hello, as you mentioned on a 4 month before training if your hunting most who use springers think a silencer as norm so i would look at the shadow RSV and with cheapy scope which i am sure is ok, if those you mention have have a silencer and better scope try out both and see what fits best. i first started again with a gamo underlever and they are ok even better with a tune up. another to look at is a CZ slavia 634 but you would need scope and silencer these a well made air rifles and full power. at about £200 then scope £50 and a matt 975 (forum member) silencer £38, some RFDs dont stock these though. you could also look at a few other makes that come complete like a crosman venom, hatsan 85XTH but requires scope. SMK XS20 or STOEGER X20OS combo. good luck and for army training to.
     
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    Yeah the whisper comes with a built in suppressor as standard and I'm swaying more towards that one because of this. Both come as a combo with scopes, worst case scenario further down the line, if need be, I'll get a better scope. Not looking at starting out too fancy as I'd like the experience behind the trigger first. Reviews on both guns seem fairly sound, but I suppose everyone would blow the trumpet for a rifle especially if they're advertising it for money haha. Thank you for the advice and thanks for the luck!

    Ryan
     
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    I have the Whisper IGT, the silencer is not particularly silent, just less loud.

    Without the silencer fitted it is probably twice as loud as normal springers. That's probably why it's on the rifle as standard.

    Again, pretty good gun for the price.
     
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    Is that the rocket IGT bull whisper as opposed to the whisper x? Have you had any dramas with it other than it not being so silent? Literally just a toss up between wether I'll need a silencer or not at the moment. Also been looking at the IGT bull whisper but it comes with the 4x32 scope whereas the other two come with the 3-9x40. Will this make much of a difference, I.e would I end up just getting a higher powered scope for the IGT in the long run anyway?

    Thanks
     
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    When I brought the rifle it was called Whisper IGT, basically the same as the Whisper X, but gas ram not spring powered.

    The rifle is fine, my only criticism would be the cocking effort on the IGT is consistently hard where as spring powered generally start easy and get progressively harder. My wife cannot even cock the gun although her springer she has little problem with.

    Shooting wise, it's accurate and fires consistent 9.8 ft lbs with very little variation.

    I would say if you can only afford the Whisper go for it but if you can outlay a bit more go for a Air arms TX200 or a pcp S400, twice the price but more than twice as good.
     
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    Ah I see fair one, I'm guessing the Bull whisper IGT will be the latest model to it then. Does the IGT make much of a difference?
    The shadow X seems like a fairly decent rifle and I'm guessing in the long run, if need be, I can get a silence that would fit it?
    Yeah money is the main issue at the moment to be fair. As soon as I've joined up and I'm earning enough to put more than bread and butter on the table I'll definitely upgrade to a decent PCP (and when I've got a bit more experience). I had a few shots the other day with a PCP and an SMK XS20 to compare it to (no points for guessing which I'd choose if money wasn't an option) and the PCP was so smooth to fire with
     
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    Fair play to Natgun for telling it how it is :up:

    Best thing you can do IMO is to totally ignore Gamo - IME they're all grossly overpiced, substandard rubbish and a complete waste of money. You'd be far better off spending your money on something Turkish or used and German / British ;)
     
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    This is why I wish money wasn't a big factor to play in this at the moment unfortunately. I'd choose something British or German straight away otherwise. In the long run I'll be able to spend more money. But as it stands I'm pretty much looking at spending around £200 (including a scope). I know this doesn't open me to many options but at the moment it's just trying to work out which of the few that are affordable tick all the boxes.
     
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    Yer spelt it wrong
     
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    Not the only one that noticed then
     
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    If it was me I would be looking at a better quality second hand rifle rather than a new Gamo for the money you want to spend. A quick look at the For Sale board on here has a HW35 or a Webley Stingray or a Webley & Scott Eclipse for around the same money. And they all come with scopes.
     
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    Cheers, I'll get on the laptop when I get in and have a proper gander like.
     
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    Thanks for the advice so far
     
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    my choice would be a used HW99 & scope - you'll pick up a nice one for £200
     

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