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Starter gun.

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Vaisravana, Sep 18, 2007.

  1. Vaisravana

    Vaisravana Active Member

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    Hi, i'm alex.

    I've been reg'ed for a few weeks but was just trying to buy secondhand.

    It seems now that it would be better to buy new, but beond the fact that I like the look of the s410 and have about £450 to spend i'm not that sure of what to buy.

    I've seen to many people who've had chunks cut out of them to be bothered with the spring brake barrels.

    I would be greatful for any advice.
    V
     
  2. Darren Petts

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    Is your budget for gun only or does that need to include a scope and / or charging gear? What do you intend to use the gun for - hunting / FT / HFT / plinking in the garden?
     
  3. EX Mod Cog

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    On a budget of £450 odd you should go for a top quality spring rifle, like an air Arms TX200 or a Weihrauch HW97K - both will leave you plenty of change for scopes and other accessories.
     
  4. Vaisravana

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    Yes that does cover scope, bag and charging gear, however I could let the scope wait.
    I think i'll round it up to £500.
    I would use the rifle for mostly plinking but hunting would be on the cards.

    From what i've fired before I would prefer a bolt action (and mulitshot but I need to keep the cost down).

    Thanks for the replys.
     
  5. Darren Petts

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    Charging gear = £163. Forget a pump and buy a scuba tank.
    Down to £337 already and a scope and silencer are needed!
    S200 with bum basic scope and silencer and bag = £327.
    Multishot kit can be bought later as funds allow for £62.

    Failing that you are looking at secondhand or upping the cash.

    Either calibre will do for plinking and hunting. a .22 version will do 60 shots per fill and the .177 will do 40. .177 lead is cheaper and the smaller calibre has a flatter trajectory as it flies 200 fps faster. It's a personal preference thing for your requirements but reports suggest the S200 multishot kit works best in .22. Buy BEFORE October 1st as the VCR bill outlaws online and phone sales after this date so prices will rocket afterwards.
     
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    Living in derbyshire a scuba tank would be hard to get.

    Thanks for the advice.
     
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    Thats odd theres no place to dive in chesterfield.

    But i'm fine with a pump.
     
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    There's always Queens Park ;)

    I should add - there's a diving club that meets at the leisure centre, and plenty of local places to recharge the tanks.
     
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    The crick ground?
     
  11. Rockford

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    Yep - next door to it. The dive club uses the swimming pool for training sessions.

    I'm Dean. It looks as though I'm in the same boat as you - new to airgunning, and reading as much as I can before deciding what to buy. Leaning towards a springer at the moment - AA or HW models are on the short list.
     
  12. Vaisravana

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    I liked the AA s400 the best out of the rifles I tryed, and the s410 seemed better.

    Aside from plinking where is there to go? I know about the clubs south of derby but there seems to be nothing in the north neak of the woods.

    I'm from swanwick by the way.
     
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    Hi

    TBO youl be very lucky to find a new s410 for £450 you might get just the rifle but that's it.

    I think the best option for you may just be to go for a second hand rifle, add an extra £50 to your budget, and you shouldn't have to much trouble finding a good second hand s410 with a scope and silencer fitted.
    And depending on how good your people Skills are you may just get a free low budget gun bag out of it so that you can get your newly acquired rifle home safe and sound ( as i once did when i first bought me first rifle :D).

    Now as for the rest of the gear scuba tank or pump, sling and bi-pod etc youl just have to get them at a later date, your main thing is the rifle and scopes! (pellets)

    Now there is a down fall to this, and it just means every time you need to refill the rifle you'll have to pop back to the shop you bought the rifle from or any other gun store to fill it, but what else can you do unless you have the tank or pump. Pumps are OK but if the air in a scuba tank is OK for use to breath then its dam well good enough to go in me rifle.

    so the best bit of advice i could give you, is to find your nearest gun dealer, tell him what your budget is and the rifle youve got your hart sent on and go from there. who knows you may just end up walking out the shop with a different rifle which you never even thought of getting but it ends up be the right 1 for you.

    As it happened to me last week, i when to my local gun shop with my hart sent on getting a BSA super10 BB K, but after having a chat to the gun dealer, and having a look at the super ten he had on display, holding the rifle looking down the scopes and so on, i ended up purchasing a AA s410 .22 Cardin, left hand, silencer, hawke 3-9x44 scope and walnut stock all for £630 and to be honest am glad i bought the AA, am looking forward to getting it at the week end.

    I use to have the AA s310 and that was a cracking little number so the s410 should be just as good if not Better!

    hope this helps

    ATB shadow
     
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    Exactly :D
     
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    Typo now corrected :p
     
  16. Rockabilly

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    ;)in my honest opinion the ideal starter gun is a decent springer
    a newbie to the game needs to learn gun control, positioning of
    hands and follow through, anyone can pick a pcp up and start getting good groups ,but try it with a springer and a newbie would have groups
    like a coffee table, buy a springer to start and your overal shooting
    will have a good base to build on....
     
  17. EX Mod Cog

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    Yep springers are the way to go for newbies, something like a BSA would do nicely.
     
  18. Rockford

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    Nearest clubs (AFAIK) are Matlock and Bakewell. I've also heard of one at Eckington, but no further info on that one. Also a place out at Huthwaite called Woodend Farm Complex. Apart from these - plenty of fields - just need to get permission :(
     
  19. Vaisravana

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    Bakewell isn't that far out of my way, i'll ask around.
    Thanks everyone for your advice, i'll consider getting a springer.
     

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