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Advice Sssssssllllooooooooooooooow fill bottles.

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by sneakysniper, Jan 11, 2014.

  1. sneakysniper

    sneakysniper Donator

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    Well i went to get my 3 ltr bottle filled for the first time and the gunshop (Neath) reckons it's faulty, due to the slow fill adapter inside it (they can't tell how much air they are putting into it) It was bought from BAR who get them supplied from Midlands diving centre.

    Both BAR and the diving centre say the bottles sounds fine and the gunshop don't know how to fill it up. I'm waiting (been almost a week) for a call back from the diving centre who say they are going to ring the gunshop to explain to them how the slow fill adapter works etc.

    But i was wondering if anyone else has these bottles and have you encountered any problems getting them filed up?
     
  2. SteveO

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    Has this been posted before or different bottle / problem? :confused:
     
  3. Whistler1

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    Not much help to you i know,but i have MDC 300bar bottle i got filled from empty,and iy was fine.I will ask a stupid question,what is happening to the compresser gauge needle in the gun shop when they try to put air in it,ie is it moving at all.

    Mobile...some **** has stole my bt cable,so no internet
     
  4. sneakysniper

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    i posted a moan about it, but didn't ask for advice and if anyone else has the same problem.
    In answer to Whistler, the gunshop said (i didnt see as he does it out the back) their equipment gauge is saying something different, think he said over full but the biottle doesn't say the same thing.

    He thought at first the bottle wasn't filling up but it was actually full. The problem he said he has is that he can't tell how much air he is pumping in.

    There's got to be quite a few of these bottles around surely.
     
  5. Whistler1

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    I have stood and watched them topping up my 12litre 300bar in the dive centre.If thair compresser gauge said 300bar,and my bottle,s gauge said 260bar,i would have expected them to tell me my bottle is full,but as my bottle gauge is reading lower,the problem must be with my bottle gauge.Not an expert,but unless i am missing somthing,sounds as if your bottle gauge needs replacing.
     
  6. secretagentmole

    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    either that or the compressor in the shop stops at 300 bar, however the restriction caused by the slow fill valve means only 260 bar has gone in and it is slowly topping up.

    Like hand pump filling a buddy bottle, you can get 200-250 bar in very easily, the last 40-60 bar is a steward!

    Simply ask them to keep it hooked up and see if the bottle gauge increases the reading!
     
  7. mattgriff88

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    Take it to Caerphilly a placed called Remar safety and diving.

    They will sort you out, my mate took his bottle to neath and had a simular problem with them.
    Took it to Remar no problem at all.
     
  8. Akita177

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    I take it the compressor is pressurizing the whip too fast and cutting out before air is moving into the bottle?

    Someone at the club had one of the new regulator/head/bleed valves i thought it was bloody great.
     
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    they never fill to exactly 300 as the air inside gets hot an expands. it takes a bit for them to fill right up to 300 as they have to stop let it cool down then carry on filling. unless they've got a big tank of cold water they drop your bottle in why they fill it. which they do at a place by me.
     
  10. sneakysniper

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    I'm sure it was as full as it would get as it weighed much more than it did when i first had it. It may very well be the last bit that worried them as he siad it was taking too long.
     
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    Interesting that your mate had the same problem at Neath gunshop! I was thinking of going to a diving shop but then you can't get shooting supplies at the same time.

    I'm gonna do some chasing up tomorrow as i think i have been more than patient so far.
     
  12. sneakysniper

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    Well i took the bottle to Remar diving in Caerphilly, he filled it straight away with no problems at all!
    He said a few people had come in after going to Neath gunshop and having problems.
     
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    this is odd
    i have been taking my cylinders to neath gun shop for 3 years with no problems
    even the 2 new cylinders i bought last year he fills without issues
    Not sure if mine are slow fill but they are fairly new,both stamped 2013
    very odd
     
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  14. sneakysniper

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    Mine says October 12. There's a few different valve types apparrently. Neath don't like mine!
     
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    Happy days!
     
  16. andyz1000

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    i know for a fact none of my current cylinders have slow release valves as i have had to fit in line flow restrictors from best fittings
    according to Richard at best fittings mde changed the valves last year
     

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