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Springers as accurate as pcp's ?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Hoodster, May 13, 2015.

  1. Hoodster

    Hoodster Engaging Member

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    Until this morning I thought it was no brainer but to my surprise there are shooters who feel a springer is as accurate as a pcp.
    The fact that the best hft/ft scores are nearly always achieved by the open class shooters not the recoiling class says it all really but I'm interested in hearing what the general opinion is on this.
     
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    Tinbum Delusions of adequacy

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    The accuracy is just the same as long as they have the same quality barrel. The difference is in the shooter and the hold, not the gun.
     
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    The barrel on my 97 will squirt a pellet as accurately as my R10.
    However , because I can't hold the 97 in EXACTLY the same way in every position for every shot, (close, but no cigar), the poi is not always where I'd like.
    In short the guns as as accurate as each other, but the shooter isn't as consistent.
    This is magnified in HFT as we can't always get into exactly the same position we zeroed in to take a shot.

    ps check out Kyle's springer scores at the hft nationals.
     
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    I agree with Tinbum ... I would only add to Tinbums post by saying .... for the vast amount of people buying guns whether they be newbies or not, a PCP will make most of us look like we have sniper abilities whereas a springer will make us look average.

    A good springer for me is a far more enjoyable shooting experience because it feels alive in my hands .... conversely a PCP is clean and clinical but bereft of any charm or character.

    Wouldn't be without any of my guns though.
     
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    In my view on the range you may get close with a springer but out hunting you just can't keep your hold consistent so the pcp will always win.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    So opinion is if two rifles have the same barrel they will be as accurate as each other regardless of the power plant ? and recoil doesn't effect accuracy ?
    In my mind being able to get the accuracy out of the rifle and the rifle being capable of the accuracy go hand in hand.
     
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    So if the rifle is capable of the accuracy, and the shooter is skilled enough to utilise that accuracy consistantly, then are you saying that a springer could be as accurate as a PCP? Go on, admit it ;)
     
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    But it's the gun that requires the shooter and the hold to be perfect? Has any spring FT or HFT shooter scored as much points as a PCP FT or HFT shooter? If yes, then I would let the "it's the shooter not the gun reasoning" count.
     
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    Okay I'll admit if a springer was shot by a machine then yes it would be as accurate as a pcp :)
    But we are not machines there fore the pcp is more accurate.
     
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    Only if the machine could account for the recoil ;)


    Should we metaphorically shake hands and walk away from this one? haha
     
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    A mate of mine can pop rabbits with his springer further than I can with my pcp, he can also pop rabbits further with my pcp than I can do with his springer!!

    so it ain't the type of rifle, it's the shooter:)
     
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    I seen this discussion somewhere before and neglected to comment as it was in a thread where a newbie was confused in his choice of gun, I did however think the thread hijack was impolite and adding somewhat more confusion..

    Anyway, I can post in this one:) I shoot a TX200mk3 in .177 and a HW100 in the same caliber. I can shoot both just as accurately over the same distances, however I prefer to shoot the HW on most occasions purely because I enjoy the ease and quality of the experience. The attached is my best so far target shot at 48 yards (no wind) with my TX200 which of course is a springer, will this be good enough or should I also try with the HW, maybe I can do better with the HW, do I want too, well that's another question.

    EDIT: As promised, click to enlarge
     
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    Not for me they aren't. Not consistently anyway.

    I prefer springers but I am not blind to their faults.

    You only have to alter the angle of the barrel when going from a low shot to a high shot, and the accuracy goes to pieces. And I'm even talking about rested shots.

    Love em but can't shoot em for toffee.
     
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    I'm going slightly off topic (ish), but are you adjusting the position / hold with your supporting hand when altering fo the low to high shot? There shouldn't be any difference in accuracy if you're aiming up or down :confused:
     
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    Just as accurate, its down to the person streering it. :) Recent comp at our club, highest pcp score which was with a mk4 daystate, was equaled by a TX200. The tx beat FTP900s, WH100, HFT500 and All manor BSA R10 Scorpion and New Goldstars etc etc. Enough said. ;)
     
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    Yes both as accurate but the pcp makes it so much easier. The people that hunt with a spring gun in preference to a pcp because they prefer the recoil and challenge to me are not being fair to their quarry. Yes it can be done I did for many years through 70's and 80's but For me if out hunting you should make it as simple and clinical as you possibly can for your quarry's sake. I own three spring guns and one pcp. The spring guns are for fun and a challenge on inanimate targets the pcp a best tool for the job of hunting.
     
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