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Springer without scope backstop or locking pin hole

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by DaveSlain, Sep 13, 2014.

  1. DaveSlain

    DaveSlain Active Member

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    My research suggests that springer rifles have the downside of rattling scopes off the mount rails over time, so a back stop or locking pin helps keep them in place and subsequently keep the zero.

    My Webley Longbow has neither, so should I just wait and see if I have problems with my current scope/mount set up (which is cheap with basic 1-screw mounting rings - and which might well be upgraded in the near future anyway) or should I save myself a load of hassle and get a one-piece mount sooner rather than later?
     
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    Dave a lot of springer fans prefer a one piece mount with 4 screws on the dovetail clamp and double screws on the scope brackets ;)

    Atb
    Bob
     
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    Ah well... it'll have to wait. Moving house next month and the advance rent and deposit looms... as does the car tax :(
     
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    you could try just using a second additional scope mount on the rear
     
  5. Macdoog

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    One piece mount is the way to go for springers.
     
  6. ratman60

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    hello, some 2 pc mounts have a back stop stud as do 1 pc, if you longbow is working as intended eg no shudder on firing and shoots smooth both types of mounts would ok, i had a 2 pc mounts on a HW95 cost a tenner, if your rifle has no indent or backstop on the rail i think you can buy a seperate backstop to go behind mount or maybe as i did with a silencer use some tissue in stud hole and screw until tight to stop movement and stops barrel marks
     
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    hello, i just checked my CZ634 and has 2 mounts to scope as has a short rail so could not use a single, but its indented for a stud.
     
  8. ratman60

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    hello, can you please put some pics up dave ??? of your longbow and scope set up????
     
  9. mattyts

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    I've always mounted my scopes a few mm away from the recoil stops just out of curiosity to see if they move and they never have.

    Also,I've never used one piece mounts,always used a pair of double screw sportsmatch or Hawke.
     
  10. Patrick

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    After you've found the best position for your scope/mounts combination you could purchase a pair of two piece mounts that have a recoil pin in the rear mount as most of them do if you don't want to go to the expense of a one piece mount.You could then drill the top of the cylinder to accommodate the said stud but of course this would mean stripping the rifle and I would only recommend it if you feel confident in doing it just remember to make sure the stud dosen't protrude to far into cylinder.JSRamsbottom do some GunTuff 2piece mts in either medium or high versions and they come with spare screws and spare recoil pin.They cost about £6.
     
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  11. oliver13

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    If you do find you have a problem you could try Loctite, clean & degrease the grooves first & make sure everything is fitted well.
    I've never had to drill the compression tube for a recoil pin though I've considered it at times, I've always found a one piece mount has settled the problem.
     
  12. cloverleaf

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    IMO a decent 12ftlb springer should be sufficiently refined (and heavy) to not require the use of an arrestor stud. A decent quality one-piece mount should be perfectly adequate to keep the 'scope in place.

    I avoid arrestor studs / screws like the plague - IMO they're an unnecessary bodge that often leads to damage of the finish on the gun; either where the stud has engaged with the action or more likely where Stevie Wonder has fitted the mounts in the past and dragged the stud all over the action while trying to locate it in the appropriate hole :rolleyes:

    Should be a last resort IMO - once you've tried a decent mount and a bit of light tuning to improve the gun's character :)
     

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