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Special Scope?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by SP99, Jan 4, 2021.

  1. SP99

    SP99 Well-Known Member

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    Afternoon again :)

    just watched a video review of a daystate huntsman regal and the guy in the vid was using a scope type I’ve never seen or heard of before. Can anyone tell me what to search for if I was looking for something g with this capability?...

    the scope had a small window displaying a slide of paper at which you can customise to show where the zero is for certain pellets at certain distances. Thought that was very clever! Or maybe I’m uneducated ;) I’ll add a picture below for reference
     

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  2. Jimmypie

    Jimmypie Pffft , Pop , Twang , Bang

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    It’s an MTC something or other :)
     
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    Jimmypie Pffft , Pop , Twang , Bang

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  4. BallisticBill

    BallisticBill Too much keyboard, not enough action!

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    Nothing special - a scope tape - just not a feature on cheaper scopes.
    Chairgun and other software can be used to print a custom tape or you can handwrite your own.
     
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  5. John Entwistle

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    Lol, nothing new or special.
    Basically it’s a DOPE card (data on previous engagement).
    There are various methods to achieve this:

    https://www.airgun101shop.co.uk/collections/stickers

    https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&r...istics-card/&usg=AOvVaw26hi2_gmXXtce4ZPlJDc9R

    These are only a couple of the options.

    To buy a scope just to get the rings that enable you to place the tape behind the window, quite frankly is just OOT imho.

    If you choose to go this way, remember this

    FFP scopes, these will work at any and all magnification.
    SFP scope, these will only be accurate at ONE magnification, fine if you only shoot at the same magnification or if you have a fixed mag scope. Useless if you change magnification on the scope.

    The scope stickers or tape are a simple and effective way of implementing this, a dope card is the most basic, easiest to produce, is able to be set up for each of the magnification setting you may use on a SFP scope.

    Centre fire and Rimfire shooters will mostly use a dope card of some manner, possible in conjunction with a Ballistics calculator (phone, iPad or stand alone)
     
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  6. SP99

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    Thanks all for your replies so fast, doubted it was something new, but had no clue what to search to find what I was looking for! Definatley going to cop myself some of the stickers aswell! Thanks
     
  7. RobertH

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    Could you clarify why you say a scope tape for a SFP scope only works for ONE magnification. I assume you mean the tape has markings that show the clicks on the elevation turret required for different distances in order to use the cross hairs for your aim point.

    I can't see how you would need to have different clicks depending on the mag. as all you're doing is moving the zero.

    I can see that a dope card if used to show holdover using reticle markings is different for different mags for a SFP scope but not for a FFP scope.
     
  8. John Entwistle

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    It’s a bit complicated, but to keep it simple.

    The scope and the reticle subtentions are only correct at ONE magnification - due to how SFP scope are manufactured.

    We’ll assume that the scope is correct at x10 mag (the user manual of mnfrs website will provide the info)

    you zero your 4x16x50 hawks SFP scope at 35 yds using a mag of x10
    Deceiving that you want to see the pellet strike, you change the mag to 4x. The subtentions don’t work correctly at this new mag, Your zero has changed, the poi no longer is the same. Therefore your dope at 10xis no longer valid.

    At short Airgun ranges the difference may not matter to you, benchrest, ft and hunters may find that this is not acceptable. The longer the range you shoot at the greater the discrepancy.
     
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    If you only change the magnification, zero won’t have changed surely? Unless the scope is broken!
     
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  10. ajohn

    ajohn Chewing Things Over

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    Correct that's the whole idea of adjusting for distance with the turrets. There can be a problem though - zero shift as the scope is zoomed on any scope.

    People who use the reticule usually shoot at 1 or maybe 2 magnifications. FFP allows them to use any mag but say the turrets on the scope can be adjusted to 1/8 moa can the reticule be read that accurately? On the other hand does it need to be. Depends on what people are shooting at.
     
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    Richard Uttings from Sharpshooting UK does some excellent scope videos and the MTC Viper Pro was one he reviewed (sub £400 group test) and believe me he wasn't impressed, regarded it as a piece of junk full of useless gimmicks, the Optisan and Hawk scopes however came out very well, no gimmicks just good all round scopes and good value for money, worth a look.
     

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