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Spambots And Why The Moderators Have To Deal With Them All The Time?

Discussion in 'Announcements / Updates' started by Wild Bill, Sep 3, 2020.

  1. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill co2 Enthusiast, HW97, K98 owner

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    Hi Moderators. Just a quick question for you. My friend runs a forum and has all but eliminated spam bots from registering. He does use a CAPTCHA type thing with a question specific to the subject. Have you guys thought about using some sort of anti spammer software? I only ask because I notice the constant workload you guys have to remove sbambot registrations by banning them.

    @Seamaster @cloverleaf @NIVEA @Tadpole @Ganton Gunner etc.
     
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    monsta41 Donator

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    cloverleaf Super Moderator Staff Member Mod/Admin

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    These sort of decisions are above our pay grade (hardly difficult since we don't get any!) so are up to Andy to sort as he sees fit.

    The one thing I would add is that while it'd be grand to get rid of the spambots (and some of the scammers are bots too) the real danger to members comes from scammers who, if recent examples are anything to go by, are actual people (if you can call them that) against whom captchas would be of little use.
     
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    *Sigh*

    Yes, I have the same issue. I have never found any reliable method to stop them. I go onto the site every few days and delete any obvious ones. The trouble is mainly that the Eastern European and Russian registrations tend to be done via third-country VPN. Oh, well.
     
  5. Wild Bill

    Wild Bill co2 Enthusiast, HW97, K98 owner

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    I look at those spambot names on the banned list and I think they can't be human but if you say they are maybe human, then so be it. :thumb:
     
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    I see where you are coming from, but I think that the spammers just choose fairly random names. Most of the genuine ones choose names the way this forum membership does, like "Airgunner One" or something that implies a connection with the sport. Spammers don't seem to care. What I don't understand is why they bother. It's not as if a random Russian advertising post (in Cyrillic!) would actually get anyone clicking on the links. The whole concept is bizarre to me. Speaking of which, it's time to check my website. Back in ten minutes.
     
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    Wild Bill co2 Enthusiast, HW97, K98 owner

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    Yes strange isn't it. I was just trying to help. Like I said my friend stopped 99% of spam registrations with whatever he did to his forum software.
     
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    A lot of the time it isn't about getting clicks, it's to do with google rankings. Basically, if a site has a lot of links coming in then it's higher up the ranking than one which doesn't.
     
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    Indeed. The easier ones to spot are obviously those originating from non-domestic, known-problem IPs - against which action can be taken... I'm getting a lot of spam coming from Russian and Ukranian IPs and pretty much all of the scam accounts have some link to Nigeria, however there's overlap between these and other IPs in more typically trustworthy countries via VPNs, which really doesn't help -especially when these IPs are potentially shared with legit members.

    India is also a fair source of spam too, however commonality of IPs seems less likely here so again harder to take action other than against each account as it appears. Unfortunately most of the spam appears to be of this nature, so little can be learned from each account to help in combatting others.

    Most are bots but some aren't, and these are potentially the most dangerous relative to rumbling what they're up to and hence what they can get away with.
     
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    I hate captcha's but it it came to using them to help stop spam on here then im generally supportive. I think some of us give the mods enough to do. ( I don't mean me It's you others that do it).LOL.
     
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    Although CAPTCHA won't eliminate the two-legged vermin, it might at least lighten the load.
     
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    HW100Tuning Being on holiday is no Picnic

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    "Spambots And Why The Moderators Have To Deal With Them All The Time?"

    Because tinterweb has been twisted and distorted into a huge marketing/sales machine.
     
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    Thats about the strength of it.
     
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    Wild Bill co2 Enthusiast, HW97, K98 owner

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    Yes and it's only for new members when they register.
     

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