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Some Questions About PCP Rifles

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Reedy3000, Apr 23, 2014.

  1. Reedy3000

    Reedy3000 Well-Known Member

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    I have a couple of questions.
    They may be daft question but been new to air rifles and having never owned a pcp or CO2 rifle before i have no idea.
    So......

    Q1

    What is the differance between a CO2 rifle (SMK XS78) and a PCP rifle?

    Q2
    Is there any reason why, on a PCP rifle, the reservoir cant be hiden in the stock as long as it is accessable for filling?
     
  2. Ichabod Armacost

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    I'm not going to give you any technical answers, cos there are better qualified folk on here than me, I suspect though that question 2 is more about aesthetics? The short answer is that some of them are pretty much hidden inside the woodwork, On the Phoenix rifles, the air bottle is hidden inside the butt of the rifle. I think I know where you are coming from though, well no, I know where I am coming from:D To me a lot of these PCPs don't look quite proper, more like summat a plumber, as opposed to a good armorer might dream up.

    Still I am openly biased, and an old fart to boot!:D
     
  3. Tinbum

    Tinbum Delusions of adequacy

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    There are no stupid questions, only stupid people!:D

    Co2 is less consistent and is effected by the ambient temperature. Its ok, but its not pcp!

    There are guns that have the tank hidden in the stock or have the bottle as the stock. Check the Pheonix mk2 out!
     
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    You forgot to say that "The spring is king" dear boy!:D
     
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    But CO2 is pretty convenient (at the expense of cost) and with the summer approaching its great for plinking in the garden!
     
  6. Stevie Darling

    Stevie Darling Sexual tyrannosaurus

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    Summat a plumber thought up! That made me laugh:)
     
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    hello, yes but if you just want to use for plinking in the garden i would suggest a cheapy springer if noise is not a problem that way save you buying co2. put a budget and will get some ideas of rifles to purchase. Co2 is one form of air rifle/pistol use, PCP being divers air usualy filled into 3/7/9/12 ltr 300bar tanks. as tinbum mentioned co2 is adverse to temperature. good luck
     
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    hello, well we each have a point of view but can you say a BSA R10 is not a nice looking PCP, most who buy these type of PCPs are after shots per fill mine being a FX vermy at around 160/180 shots per fill, no not the best looker but a well made accurate jobby i dont need fill often. saying that many like their walnut stocks as has on the R10, me i dont much care what made of as long as it does the job intended, maybe another boring old fart here!!!!!!:rolleyes:
     
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    If it's just plinking your looking at then I would recommend co2 fun and easy to use. Most of the co2 guns have been made for the very purpose of plinking and if you don't mind buying the co2 they can be good fun. However if you want to hunt imho co2 guns are not up to the job (and before someone jumps in and says my co2 gun does 11flb what about when its freezing out) and you should be looking at a good springer or pcp.
     
  10. Stevie Darling

    Stevie Darling Sexual tyrannosaurus

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    Why the need for a hidden cylinder?:)
     
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    CO2 is stored as a liquid and becomes a gas at room temperature when you let some out of the cylinder. It's quite dear to buy but the rifles are much cheaper than pcps and often they're not such good quality as they are built down to the price for plinking, which is not to say that some can't be improved a lot.
    With a pcp reservoir the makers will think about capacity and strength, cylinders and spheres are going to be stronger, weight for weight, than other shapes. You could make one 'stock shaped' but it would end up very heavy in order to provide adequate shape. A lot of users are concerned (I was going to say hung up) on shot count and more shots means bigger reservoirs which is why some rifles have those enormous buddy bottles.
    In many cases the air cylinder is also used as a support for the barrel which is often quite flimsy.
     
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    Simply aesthetics dear boy! You wouldn't dream of strutting about with your cylinder hanging out would you?:eek:;)
     
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    To be fair to CO2 guns some of them are just plinkers and good for a bit of fun but some of them - with minimal work - can be turned into pretty respectable hunting rigs.
     
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    Stevie Darling Sexual tyrannosaurus

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    It has been known allegedly;)
     
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    Wow never expected so many replies.

    Thanks to everyone for the helpful info about CO2.
    It was simply that i saw a CO2 rifle, it was a lot cheaper and looked better suited to my plan.

    As for hiding the cylinder it is simply for the look.

    My idea/plan was to take a PCP rifle and make a new stock for it. i was hoping that i could make a stock that would hide the cylinder, plan is to make the stock so that it has a removable piece on the end to allow access to the cylinder.
    Can anyone suggest anywere to buy just the parts i would need, ie pcp rifle quite cheap without he stock? or a very cheap PCP rifle?
     
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    High pressure air
     
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    So is that just the same as PCP then?
     

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