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So, the wife has said "yes"!

Discussion in 'Firearms Certificate (FAC) Guns' started by Seanalf, Jan 5, 2014.

  1. Seanalf

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    Chatting yesterday and the wife has said that I can go down the SGC and FAC route, so the forms will be downloaded and I'm on the hunt for a cabinet. I'm looking at .22lr (not going to spend the earth as it will be for rabbits).I've got 3 permissions, one is a huge farm, the other has fields approx 300yds long (but has a mainline railway running alongside it) and the last is huge farmland running alongside a horse jumping event stadia (the guy owns both). I don't think I would have a problem getting the land inspected for the first 2, the third might be a little more work for the rimfire, but he has SGC, so that may be the route with him. Anyway, I have an idea of what rifle, I have scopes already from my current air rifle stock, so what I want to know is what else will I need? I'm talking re-loading. Is it a case of DIY (if so what bits do I need) and what rough costs am I looking at for say 300 rounds, or can I buy complete 300 rounds and what would be the difference? Vague I know, but it's the accessories that add! I've found an rifle for sub £200, it's what to add. I have a lot of hunting kit already, so it's only the cost of rounds etc (or anything else I've missed).Thanks in advance guys!
     
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    You cant reload rimfire ammo bud, Winchester subs is the way to go.
     
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    You can't reload Rimfire just buy the rounds ready made. Less than £10 per 100. Rifle, cabinet, ammo, cleaning gear, are the only real costs.
    For the shot gun a cartridge bag and belt. All the accessories will be under £100. Guns, cabinet, ticket are the main costs.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    I don't need to ask my wife's permission
     
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    Im sorry have I missed something. ?..your wife said you can get sgc and fac .why would you need her permission mate
     
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    I told my 'bomb damage' that I was getting a rifle once, I don't bother anymore. I just go out and get whatever I want. The ear ache was just to much to put up with for a second time around. LOL. KB1
     
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    Sorry, I meat permission from the landowners to use them on their land, the wife's permission is to take up more space in the house lol!I didn't know if you could re-load hence the questions, so rounds aren't too expensive which is good news! I have a cleaning kit already so it will be just rounds and a bipod.£60 in South Wales for combined ticket, I'm Ex-Forces with only a couple of driving convictions from over 15yrs ago, so I'm hoping it will go through ok.The advise on here is great and very welcome. I've got my eye on either a Weihrauch Standard (£195), Anshultz 520 (£195) or Veore Semi Auto (£99). Will get the bits in place before putting cash down on the rifles first lol.
     
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    I've just been looking at your 'bay add for the cabinet! Shame you are so far away!
     
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    The start of a slippery slope. Get the biggest cabinet you can as soon you will want a 17hmr and then a .223 and then...................
    All guns look the same to wives so you won't have to ask her again.
     
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    They do ask your partner at your interview if the partner is happy for you to have the firearms.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    Already running down that slope with air rifles! I've had 6 in the last year! To be fair, my wife never stands in the way of me and rifles, if I want one, as long as the bills are paid, she's happy, it's just more about space.
     
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    Thanks, looks like they will both sell. Why don't you put in for 17 HMR at the same time as .22lr. Its a pretty impressive round. Wish I had opted to add .22lr in my recent variation request. Would have been a hell of a lot cheaper to run. LOL. Good luck with the application. Keep us posted. KB1
     
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    I would suggest that you get a bolt action 22lr, my experiences with these rifles has led me to believe that they are more reliable and potentially quieter. Don't forget to include a moderator on your application. Have a good look around at rifles as once you've bought one it's a pain to change it, watch out for weird sized scope rails which need expensive mounts and make sure that it is screw cut to take the moderator (best do some research to see what's reckoned to be good these days).
    You willprobably want to hold several different types of ammo so make sre that you apply for both keeping and buying enough so that you don't have to go to the gunshop every weel or two - that will only lead to buying more stuff!
     
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    Ok, dull question no1, whats the difference between lr and hmr? Is it the capability of the round (velocity etc?) or is it just the caliber?I was wanting to go down the bolt action route (I prefer them myself), but if a semi-auto is up at a good time, then I will have a look at is as well.
     
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    I will mainly be using it for Rabbits and the occasional fox, so what type am I best looking to put on? I was definatly going to put a moderator on as I think thats essential. I was also looking to research subsonic rounds as they are quieter and may help with the land that has the train line running through it?
     
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    Its a faster flatter round, meaning the target range can be extended somewhat. People seem to talk about taking rabbits out to about 130 + yds. It also seems to produce less chance of the bullet flying off at all angles once the target has been hit. Its just bloody expensive on rounds, as I am finding, and a tad loud. KB1
     
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    You had me all the way until you said about cost! Tight I am. can peel an orange in my pocket without letting the smell out!
     
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    I use an anschutz semi auto .22lr mate, the 525 version, but have also owned the 520 model. Great, reliable and accurate rifles. Used with a silencer and RWS subsonics they are quiet as a mouse. I also have an Anschutz 17 HMR which is another great rifle, it's flatter shooting and much more power than the .22lr as you would expect but it does make more noise. The .22 ammo is about £5 a box of 50 and the HMR about £13 for 50. I would reciommend a good bipod for the HMR.

    I would put both down on your application as they have completely different uses ie closer/quiet and longer/noisier shooting.
     
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    It's been a while since I did much shooting with a 22lr and I'm out of touch with the current models of both guns and ammo. I did have loads of rifles (and pistols) through my hands some years ago and earnt a decent amount fixing semi auto 22lr rifles and shotguns, people don't seem to look after them properly. Bolt action rifles didn't have any where near as many issues and they will function every time with whatever round you put in them while some semi autos will jam, fail to eject or find some other way to malfunction.
    Moderators have to be specified on your fac so you must put it down on your application.
    There are lots of guys on here using 22s so you should be able to get sound advice on what to look for, as with air rifles you will need to try different ammo to see what your rifle likes.
     
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    Great advise Terry, I'm fairly anal about cleaning rifles (where needed) being an ex-armourer! With semi-auto it is usually down to over oiling or not taking care of parts that can be buckled and interfere. I think I will just have to get down to the shop and shoulder a few and see what I like. The Anshultz is top followed by the Weinhrauch (as I have a HW100 and know how good that is!).
     

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