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So the maddness is beckoning like a serpents smile

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Bemused, Apr 22, 2014.

  1. Bemused

    Bemused Engaging Member

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    So with the maddness beconing like a serpents smile.
    I didn't have the Airmagnum so long at all before going slightly crazy and bumping up to an Air wolf.
    I put a little Niko 3-9x40 non AO on the Airmagnum before upgrading to a Hawke sport HD IR 4-12x50 AO, the Hawke got moved to the Wolf.
    Now with quite poor eysight and spured on my recent sharp shooting success within a five pence coin at 35 yards (which is quite unbelievable for me) I am thinking I may do even better with a little more magnification.
    Advice and recomendations appreciated.
    Regards
    Tony
     
  2. Tinbum

    Tinbum Delusions of adequacy

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    I have a hawke varmint 6.5-20 x 44 sf which can shoot the bum hairs off an earwig at 40yds. Only problem is its too long for my break barrel!:(
     
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    At that range you don't ned magnification - you need clarity.

    Both combined is nice, if you can arrange it ;)

    I don't have anything larger than a x40 on any of my air rifles - several have a x32 scope on, but they're crystal clear, pin sharp, with a fine ret and a bright sight picture. All of that makes for a ton of potential on tap, and none of them are particularly heavy or physically large, yet they outperform most x50 scopes under £200 :up:

    My eyesight is squiffy so I really benefit from decent scopes.

    How much are you looking to budget ?
     
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    Tinbum - PM sent.
     
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    One thing you need to remember is that as magnification increases your inherent wobbling looks worse and worse through the scope. Too much magnification can make accuracy worse.
     
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    I use high mag prone of a bipod at longer range but jack is correct , when im stalking and shooting from knee or standing dont go over 10 x mag
     
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    Thanks for some thoughts. Sounds silly but I don't really have a budget yet as I have no idea what to look for other than another Hawke same as I have, but bigger magnification.
    However if there is much to be gained in clarity then I would certainly spend more. To my limited experience my Hawke is VERY clear but it sounds as though there is much better.
     
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    Just to add I only shoot targets at a home range, currently 35 yards but I expect to move it out if my shooting continues to improve.
    I could extend to anything an Airwolf could reach.
    And I shoot off of bags on a table.
     
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    Hi I too have been looking for a high mag scope and after trying a mates scope have bought a Hawk night eye 6-24 x 50 with side focus, this scope is the best i have found for the money £170. its clear and bright enough to see the pellet holes at 40yds there is more choice from £250 upwards but the Night eye is plenty good enough for me.:up:
     
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    Thanks keithy,
    I shoot the Bisley practice targets, I can see my holes in a white background but not in a blue.
    And the first shot that hits the bull sort of obscures my target and I get a little vague where the centre is.
     
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    There are some 'stick on' targets which you can put on top of your normal target board.
    The 'Shoot n C' is one I have used.
    Before you go off spending your hard earned on more magnification, try something along these lines, could save you a few pennies:
    https://www.birchwoodcasey.com/Targets/Shoot-N-C.aspx
     
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    Thanks for the tip.
     
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    So I now realise its more than just a numbers thing, there is also the unquantified clarity aspect which could lead to lesser numbers adding up to a better end product. It is a shame visual acuity is not specified.
    I did like the ease of use of the Hawke BRC software which makes me inclined to stick with Hawke.

    Do any of the Hawkes have a significantly better clarity over my Sport HD IR AO?
    Or should I be looking at different manufactures.
     

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