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Discussion in 'General chit chat' started by warrenater, Jun 5, 2015.

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    Great idea! Smoking is such an anti social thing nowadays anyway!
     
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    i do agree to some extent but as i was reading it i thought it was april 1st , i've never read anything so stupid in my life , restricting smoking times times to certain hours in the day , hospital gowns with the letter 'S' on them , people under the age of 19 caught smoking will be forced to eat a ciggarette in front of an inspector and prove they've swallowed it , i mean come on FFS is this really serious ? :frusty: and no i'm not a smoker i think they smell worse than the insides of a dead 2 week old rabbit
     
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    It's a spoof. But personally, as an ex smoker myself, I hate when the antis trot out their "why should I have to brea
    the their smoke" b******s. If I have to breathe your exhaust fumes, you sure as hell can breathe my fag smoke.
     
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    Do you not drive then Sidney?, otherwise your argument doesn't really stand up.

    Smoking is optional, for most people driving is a necessity.

    Yes, I'm an ex smoker, the worst kind of anti smoker there is, but why should my kids breathe in your smoke?

    My opinion; it's a dirty, unhealthy, foul smelling habit, if you enjoy it go ahead I couldn't give a toss, but other people should not have to indulge you.

    Dave
     
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    Who said your kids should breathe smoke?
    What p1sses me off about the whole thing is that loads of antis applauded when the ban was brought in for pubs etc, but where are they now? Three pubs in my village have since closed, leaving one remaining.
    Surely it should be stuffed to the rafters with all the antis now able to breathe all that lovely fresh air over a couple of pints?...
    But no, they're still stuck at home doing what they've always done, looking for something else to whine about, while the local is dying on its ar5e.
    Surely it should be up to the landlord as to whether he allows smoking or not, the antis can choose to stay away if they wish.
    Too many cries to ban things with no thought of compromise.
     
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    What p1sses me off about the whole thing is that loads of antis applauded when the ban was brought in for pubs etc, but where are they now? Three pubs in my village have since closed

    Very true that :up:
     
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    driving is not a necessity it is an evolution in technology. an improvement on the non fossil fuel consuming horse and cart, so dont even try that argument. tobacco has been used way before the motor car. i drive but my children dont, probably because they are 5 and 2 but if i take them into the city centre they have no choice but to breathe from cars and busses, so where are there rights on this? gasman had the thread on doing it with kids in cars but i dont want my kids the breathe in refined dead dinosaur exhausts.

    any way public transport, although poor in some areas, is available to use for all so driving your own car is not a necessity its a privilege you pay extortionately for.

    lets kick the driving habit and all get on our bikes :eek:
     
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    So does the pub still manage to survive when the antis are staying away? Or are the smokers heavier drinkers and will save the day?;)
    Dag
     
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    I have a mate who owns three pubs/wine bar round here, he said the ban made not one little bit of difference to business :confused: the price of booze is causing pubs to close
     
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    Driving ........ calls to restrict
    Smoking ........ calls to restrict
    Drinking ........... calls to restrict
    Airguns ............. ????????????
    as long as we are ok
    United, we stand. Divided we fall
     
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    I was in my local last night with my wife along with about 6 other people in total. It is my 4th. visit to my local so far in June, so that argument don't hold an awful lot of water.

    The real reason pubs are closing is the massive taxation applied to booze and the fact that people can drink at home for way less than half the price. The smoking ban was long overdue, again why should my kids breathe it in?

    I state again smoking is entirely optional, I can be this categorical because I stopped doing it, so I have the data and experience to back my argument up.

    The biggest argument though should be it's cost to the tax payer through the NHS, and personally I'd rather see the struggling service saving poor little b*****s who have done nothing other than be born than 60 year olds who have been chuffing 40 a day for their entire lives.

    Like I said I have nothing against smokers, I did it myself (I was a Knob), your body, your choice. I don't however support anybody's right to endanger other people.

    Dave
     
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    Some smokers have argued in the past that they have paid for their future health care many times over in taxes on their particular product.
     
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    And that argument can be applied to drinkers, drivers, airgunners, motor cyclists, fishermen etc. etc. this could go on forever.

    I am not a smoker, never have been a smoker, never taken drugs of any kind other than prescribed over the counter. My partner is a smoker .... I always said I would never go out with a smoker .... I have never smelt it on her clothes or breath, she never smokes in my car or in the house, around my kids, in fact the only place I know she does smoke is in her car with both front windows down!! she does not drink a single drop and never has, attends a gym and is as fit as anyone I know.

    So just to recap I am engaged to a smoker that I promised myself never would happen ... go figure, she does not like me to see her smoke either, never smelt or tasted it on her also.

    I tend to fall into the camp that believes we all have choices, I chose not to smoke but do enjoy a pint. If I go into town I have to breathe car fumes that goes for everyone !!! so that is a choice you have to take for yourself and your kids. otherwise stay at home. I also chose to attend a gym for many many years then chose to leave and never return and then chose to get fat or get fatter as a result of my choice.

    Remember, we have to live by our decisions. Every decision we take today will have an impact on our tomorrows, not all of these will have positive outcomes.
     
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    "Some smokers have argued in the past that they have paid for their future health care many times over in taxes on their particular product."

    Fortunately this kind of argument does get listened to by those who make policies. How many cigs would you have to smoke to pay the cost of treating emphysema or lung cancer just as examples?

    If somebody can be bothered to do the sums, I'm dying to know.

    Dave
     
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    When I smoked I never did it in close proximity to others, in fact I was more a secret smoker!!

    what annoys me is the fag ends that litter the streets.
     
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    So it's the smoking ban that's killing the pub trade and nothing to do with the recession, huge price hikes and the fact that youngsters drink at home now before going out later and not drinking as much????
     
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    It was always the smokers that did the drinking, and I was one of them.
    When the ban came in we just couldn't be bothered to keep traipsing outside, and our weekends drinking petered out. Not a single one of us regulars, the majority of whom smoked, are regulars any longer.
     

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