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Smith & Wesson M&p 15 Problem!

Discussion in 'Firearms Certificate (FAC) Guns' started by Paulsgt, Dec 1, 2019.

  1. Paulsgt

    Paulsgt Active Member

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    Hi folks, my daughter's boyfriend has the above .22LR semi auto. On occasion, not all the time, the gun will cycle the fresh round into the breech, but doesn't re-set the hammer or the trigger. Has anyone come across this issue?
    Thanks in advance.

    Cheers, Paul.
     
  2. rich79

    rich79 Lovin the smell of cordite in the morning

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    How long has he had it? Sounds like it needs to go back under warranty if applicable!
    They did do a recall on them but I think it was for slam fire issues and the bolt heads.
     
  3. Spray1Mark

    Spray1Mark Pro Poster

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    What ammo is he using? and has he fitted any aftermarket parts?
     
  4. Spray1Mark

    Spray1Mark Pro Poster

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    Actually going full auto and like a F/A there is no reset as long as the trigger is kept pressed.
     
  5. Paulsgt

    Paulsgt Active Member

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    Unfortunately I don't have a lot more information at the moment. I don't know how old the gun is so not sure if there's a warranty claim possible. I can find out what ammo he's using.
    I'll mention the recalls to him, to see if he's aware of them.
    Thanks.
     
  6. Paulsgt

    Paulsgt Active Member

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    I've contacted him, he's using CCI standard ammo, used it for a while. The gun is completely standard. No longer under warranty, unfortunately.

    Thanks.
     
  7. mmamonster

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    Brother inlaw has one, Try using cci mini mags, give the gun a good clean.
    Atn
    Mart
     
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  8. rich79

    rich79 Lovin the smell of cordite in the morning

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    Id try some high velocity ammo.
     
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    gasman Ex-Head of sales smartfit uk, IQ -8

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    Yep as said ammo issue, well sounds like cci mini mags are the way to go
     
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  10. Spray1Mark

    Spray1Mark Pro Poster

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    I bought 5 for the club, they have been running and continue to run flawlessly on CCI standard.

    Perhaps the unit trigger is in need of new springs? I would never use minimag personally as it can destroy 5.56 AR triggers, but would be fine on a dedicated .22 RF trigger unit.
     
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    I had one from new until recently, i put about 1500 rounds through it with zero issues using CCI Blazer HV ammo. It spat the empties out so far that i almost needed a bike to go find them!
    I never tried any other ammo so maybe HV rounds are the way to go with the M&P's.
     
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    If it's not resetting the hammer then it most likely is short stroking, or the trigger mech is in need of adjustment/repair (if that's possible).
    First cause could be user related (hold the rifle better), ammo related (get some pokier stuff) or just dirty (clean to free up the bolt etc) - check there's nothing behind the bolt stopping full movement.
    Second cause, you'd need to hold the TMH closer to the keyboard so I can see it.;)

    ETA: On a few 22 ARs I have seen they had the issue of a dinged (technical term:D) chamber caused by a lot of dry firing. It's easy to remove but until then the burr can drag on the case usually on extraction but I've also seen it sometimes slow the feed. If the ejected cases have a bright scratch on one side then that could be the cause.
     
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    Whilst HV ammo used to be the way to go, for us in a range between rows of houses, with a turning target system and thousands of rounds a night it's just too noisy!

    CCI standard was a godsend for us a few years back, when we discovered it functioned in all of the .22 AR's in the club without issue and there were dozens of custom ones at the time (most built by me LOL).
     
  14. darklord

    darklord Can’t beat a tx200 at 30m

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    First off break the gun down and check and clean the bolt and the upper second do the same with the trigger mech

    I’d say it’s dirty inside, seen it before

    with cci standard the only time I’ve seen this is due to dirt and crud build up in the bolt guide and trigger mech
     
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    Thanks gents, I will pass on all of your advice/suggestions to him (it would be easier to get him on the forum), hopefully he can sort it out.

    Regards, Paul.
     
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    Hi guys,
    I've the HK416 and it'll run on nearly every ammo I've fed it. The design of the S&W etc are primarily geared towards the high velocity ammo. Cci mini mags are great and very reasonably priced. I'd stay well clear of any bulk boxes. The S&W could be tuned but it's more hassle than it's worth. I'd it the new version of the S&W? 22 plinkster had a few issues with his.
     
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    These AR based Semis are very simple designs. If it has been running faultlessly on one type of round and it’s stopped performing then it’s one of two things. A part has broke or its full of burnt powder and carbon deposits.
    Don’t just get faster ammo as you may compound the problem and there is no guarantee it will be any more accurate, in my experience it most likely won’t be.
    Find the problem and address it so you can keep using the same ammo.
     
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