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Question Silly question perhaps - PCP

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by ManxAirGunner, Jun 29, 2012.

  1. ManxAirGunner

    ManxAirGunner Busy Member

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    With springers, it's bad to fire with an empty chamber. With PCP's, is it OK to fire without it being loaded?

    cheers
     
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    It's the other way around mate, your not ment to dry fire a springer but you can dry fire a pcp.
     
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    I think that's what he said mate :up:
     
  4. Accuspell

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    That's what he said. With springers, it's bad to fire with an empty chamber.

    manxman - yes, it is bad to shoot a springer or gas ram without something in the chamber to cushion the blast. This is because of the mechanical parts moving at high speed and then coming to a sudden stop, without the cushioning effect of the air being squashed behind the pellet (or other suitable projectile).

    With a PCP, you can't say there are no moving parts, but there is no piston charging forward. All there is the trigger system and a valve opening against a spring. The air is precompressed, so there is no requirement for high speed moving parts, which is why it is safe to dry fire it.
     
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    That's what he said :s
    Its bad to dry fire a springer because the piston will slam against the inside of the chamer as there is no resistance to slow it down. You can breaks springs and do all sorts of damage.
    Its ok to dry fire single stroke pneumatics, co2 and pcp's because it's just a release of air/gas. In escence, to the gun it doesn't know there's not a pellet loaded.
     
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    Perfect guys, thanks very much. picking up new toy tomorrow morning so wanted to double check.
     
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    i learnt this the hard way, didn't have a clue and did quite a bit of dry firing to setup a new trigger.

    Had to have all new internals fitted
     
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    On a springer mate?
     
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    yeah sorry forgot to mention, was my brand new springer
     
  10. ManxAirGunner

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    ahh nps, nah I wouldn't dry fire a springer - actually just sold it to Brian.

    The only other springer I have is an old webley, but the trigger is pointless as it fires by pushing the safety off lol
     
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    What is the new toy you're picking up if you don't mind me asking ?
     
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    I would assume its the hatsan at44-10 that he has in his signature box that says 'soon'
     
  13. Accuspell

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    OH NO...DON'T!:eek: Get a used, better rifle that won't soak up all your spare cash trying to get it to work properly.
     
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    secretagentmole Low down, dirty and quiet...

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    thus speaketh someone who has not had one, very nice guns the AT!
     
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    This is probably why the stock on my brothers SMK has cracked as he is forever dry firing his for whatever reason
     
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    Yea it's fine on a pcp but not on a springer
    not sure about the ones with air pistons or whatever
     
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    I wouldn't let it have houseroom if it were given to me, but I have used them! Hence my comment. The Turks do not take air rifles seriously - that is why Webley had so much trouble trying to get them to understand that they had to put the same effort into producing quality for their air rifles as their shotguns. Their response was simply, "why, it is only an airgun?"

    Why is it everyone is saying the same thing about Webley rifles now...not the same quality as when they were made in Brum......it is because the Turks simply do not take as much care over tolerances. Fact. Yes, they can be made to work very well, but only with after the purchase fettling.
     
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    Sorry mate had bad day read it wrong.
     

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