1. The Forum Rules have undergone some minor changes and updates.  Please take the time to read them; it will only take a couple of minutes of your time. By doing so, you lessen the chance of incurring the wrath of the moderation team or making yourself look foolish to other members.

    90% of users posting adverts in the Sales forums need to be reminded to read the rules as their posts are wrong.  This is unnecessarily time-consuming and will no longer happen - if your advert doesn't follow the Sales Rules it will be deleted and you'll have to start all over again.

    To close this box once you've read it (and the Rules), click on the X in the top right-hand corner.

    Thank you.

    AGF Staff



    Dismiss Notice
  2. A reminder of one of the Forum Rules:

    'Behaviour

    Do not make inappropriate or offensive posts - including threats, harassment, swearing, prejudice, defamation, deliberate insults or name-calling, other negative remarks about this forum, its moderators and administrators or your fellow members. Even if this is just your own personal opinion, RESPECT YOUR FELLOW MEMBERS.'

    There have been changes made to our censoring software in an attempt to help with this growing problem.

    Click the X in the top-right-hand corner to dismiss this notice.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Dear members,

    Our membership (like our country) consists of people from all walks of life; different in far more ways than can be listed here and each with a different view based on their experience of life - regardless of their colour, religion or cultural heritage. Every single person in the UK has been born of mixed race – we are a multi-coloured and multi-cultural country.

    As many of you are aware there are a handful of individuals amongst this membership that persist in making provocative, inflammatory, racist and otherwise offensive comments. This has been happening across the forum to a certain degree but is most especially prevalent in the Adult section.

    The moderation team has tried to stay on top of this, however unfortunately because of the ‘offensive’ nature of much of its content we don’t monitor the Adult section quite as much as perhaps we should. As a result much of this behaviour has gone unnoticed unless it has been reported to us. While the team always intended to take a "light touch" approach to the Adult section it would seem that some people aren’t quite adult enough to be left unmonitored after all.

    This behaviour is, and always has been against Forum Rules as well as the specific stipulations of the Adults forum and it will no longer be tolerated. We feel it's time to draw a line in the sand and as such from this point onward offenders will receive an immediate and permanent ban from the forum.

    In order for us to achieve our goal of restoring the forum to the friendly and tolerant place it once was, we ask that ALL members be mindful of the content they post and help us to stop unacceptable behaviour by using the 'Report' tool at the bottom of any offending post - the results of which can be seen only by Admin/Moderators.

    You should all receive a copy of this message by PM. 

    To close this message box, click on the 'X' in the top-right-hand corner.

    Dismiss Notice
  4. Hotmail block emails from us entering your inbox. Unless you can setup a safe sender you will not get activation emails from the forum. Please use an alternative provider or complain to Hotmail.
    Hotmail addresses include.

    @Hotmail.co.uk @Hotmail.com @outlook.com @Live.com
    Dismiss Notice
  5. Postings on Politics, Religion & Controversial Off-Topic Material

    The majority of users do not want to read about these subjects and people have left the forum as a result of it – this is after all an 'Airgun' Forum. It’s all very well to say they don’t have to read it if they don't want to, but as most of us use the ‘New Posts’ button there is no easy way to avoid it.

    All AGF staff members are in favour of people being able to discuss what they want, but we have to draw the line somewhere if it is upsetting other users. We don’t want to read about these topics either.

    IMPORTANT- The discussion of politics and religion is no longer allowed anywhere on the forum (including the Adult section).  The only exception is if it's airgun related - they must be put in the Airgun Related Politics section..

    We will not tolerate bullying or personal attacks, racism or any other offensive 'isms'. we will remove these topics from the forum, we will not give you an area where you can abuse each other. We will not hesitate to ban offenders.

    To clear this text box, click on the 'X' in the top right-hand corner.

    Dismiss Notice

Sights Reflector Type

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Graham Barnes, May 28, 2018.

  1. Graham Barnes

    Graham Barnes Member

    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    4
    Wondering if anyone can offer me some simple straight advice. Brought myself nice new gun Webley VMX and joining a club. The last time I did serious shooting I had a ,Stirling HE 81 I side lever and an ASI Paratrooper for pinking in parents garden, the one with the 25 shoot spring loaded mag on the top. We are talking mid 70's here but managed to fit what I recall was classed as an early reflector signt. More a small box you looked through and allowed your eyes to central the target. Loved it I found it fast and for me accurate. Now been out of touch for years help on the same type of Wight if it is still around would be great
     
  2. rabbitwrecker

    rabbitwrecker Black Latex Matters...

    Messages:
    15,707
    Likes Received:
    19,389
    Location:
    worthing
    :welcome:

    Hi Graham. Not sure what you mean. What did the aim point look like?
     
  3. Graham Barnes

    Graham Barnes Member

    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    4
    Hard to describe without drawing but here goes, four inches long one inch wide two inches high like looking down a square tunnel with four pointers that come from each side much like normal scoope, but you could only see all four pointers that did not touch in the middle by the way, when your eye was in perfect line with your aiming point. It meant you could acquire the target with both eyes open then be straight on it very quick. I don't know if it compares to the modern red/green dot sights as I said just getting back into shooting. But I found it very easy to get on with. Hope that helps

    Graham
     
  4. monsta41

    monsta41 Donator

    Messages:
    14,259
    Likes Received:
    11,565
    Location:
    Canvey Island essex
    maybe a red dot
     
  5. Graham Barnes

    Graham Barnes Member

    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    4
    I was think a very early form of that we are talking 30 years ago plus here. But would like to use same sort of thing so any advice people who have used a modern red/green dot one would be helpful.

    Graham
     
  6. terry1001

    terry1001 Major Poster

    Messages:
    9,104
    Likes Received:
    2,132
    Location:
    Ipswich
    There's ay number of these on the market and they are designed for fast target acquisition and work best on larger targets. They are often used on pistols as well. They will never be as accurate as a scope (or proper iron sights for that matter) but are quick to use. Have a look on ebay for 'reflex sight', 'red dot sight' or 'Eotech' and you'l find a few to browse through.
     
  7. rabbitwrecker

    rabbitwrecker Black Latex Matters...

    Messages:
    15,707
    Likes Received:
    19,389
    Location:
    worthing
    A modern holographic sight sounds close...
     
  8. Graham Barnes

    Graham Barnes Member

    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    4
    That's the sort of thing I am looking for to put the fun in my shooting. I can longer use my garden like I used to at my parents so the option of toy soldiers airfix models and the like are not there. Before I decided on what gun to buy I hired a PCP only from a range with a fantastic sight and not wanting to sound big headed but within a short space of time was almost putting the next shoot through the hole of the previous, not sure if my shooting of just how far we have come in the last years. I want something to put the fun back in with just range targets and pop up bunnies. So a red dot could be perfect.

    Graham
     
  9. Graham Barnes

    Graham Barnes Member

    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    4
    If that puts the fun back I can look into that, thanks

    Graham
     
    rabbitwrecker likes this.
  10. Geezer

    Geezer Keyboard Hero

    Messages:
    2,607
    Likes Received:
    2,393
    Location:
    London
    Welcome back go the sport and to the forum.

    Sounds to me like you may have had a BSA RS1 reflex sight (google it?), though there were plenty of similar things around back then. I seem to remember one that was indeed a rectangular box like you describe, but can't recall what it was called.

    A modern holographic or red dot will be much better than anything vintage, except maybe a Singlepoint. But don't put a cheap one on a springer. The recoil will mash the optics, the electrics, or both.

    By the way, technically your HR81 was a bolt action underlever. And they were introduced in 1981, not the 70s.

    I had a Paratrooper repeater. Actually, I've had two of them. Huge fun.
     
    rabbitwrecker likes this.
  11. Graham Barnes

    Graham Barnes Member

    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    4

    Just goes to show how we loose touch of time, I did not have the Stirling for long others things got in the way, usual story wish not sold it. Your right the paratrooper was such fun for the back garden who knows how tens of thousands of pellets went through it, you just had to go silly, did you have the problem too fast and cut the pellets in half. I would love that sort of fun again but the world has changed, mum and dad's neighbours knew I could be trusted now people just don,t like anything to do with guns.
    I am just looking forward to the new gun.
     
  12. Graham Barnes

    Graham Barnes Member

    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    4
    just looked on Google and he's that's the one had so much fun even letting my apprentice instructor help me design and make a mount for the paratrooper so could still use the mag.
     
  13. Geezer

    Geezer Keyboard Hero

    Messages:
    2,607
    Likes Received:
    2,393
    Location:
    London
    Pleased to help.

    Yes, my Gamo/ASI repeaters all mashed pellets occasionally. Unsurprisingly, Gamo own-brand diabolos worked best. But not perfectly.

    A decent modern red dot will be approximately 1000 times better than the old BSA RS1.
     
  14. Graham Barnes

    Graham Barnes Member

    Messages:
    21
    Likes Received:
    4
    I must have been one of the few people that got on with them. Wish I could have the same fun in the garden where I live now. Airfix models were so much fun to shoot up.
    Might have to look into a modern replacement of carry on with the open sights the Webley comes with.
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice