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shrouding a s400

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by jambo1984, Feb 5, 2014.

  1. jambo1984

    jambo1984 Engaging Member

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    hello all I just purchased a s400 k and was wondering if anyone knows anyone who sells shrouds for them ???
     
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    some one on this site or it could be the other one, ordered some carbon fibre tubing..not sure if it just looked like carbon fibre or the real thing..to make a shroud for his 400/410....it looked very good. sorry cant offer any more info on this.
     
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    cheers pal I'll have a look now
     
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    That was me I suspect. Not a proper shroud, but a length of carbon tube 12.5mm inner diameter, 15mm outer. Two 500mm sections shipped from China for £15 IIRC. Very pleased with how it turned out. Two ways of doing it depending on whether you spend the extra to buy a larger barrel band. Makes the skinny S400 barrel look much better.
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    That looks class mate:up:
     
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    I've just had a browse at some carbon on the bay and I could only find the size I need from America
     
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    I'll have a look for it tonight. Probably depends what search terms you use.
     
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    cheers mate I'll have another browse in sec...is it 12.5 id x 15 od ???
     
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    Think I've found it and was just wrong about the internal diameter. The description and price of this one look spot on so I'm sure it's correct. External dia is 15mm, internal is 13mm. Thinking about it, if the barrel is 12.5mn, then that only gives 0.25mm all round for clearance which sounds about right. Mine was a nice sliding fit.

    Cant post a link as I'm on the eBay app, but it's item number. 251272430859

    Currently showing as 'seller is away' so I'd be inclined to wait til you know they're back. Quoting quicker shipping time than I got too. Mine was 1 month.
     
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    cheers for your time mate
     
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    My pleasure. If you go ahead with this then the two solutions to the barrel band are to cut the carbon off either side (not to my liking, but will work fine), or give rowan engineering a call. They make one with an internal diameter of 16mm, and provide you with a larger o ring to compensate for the difference. The 'third way' is of course to dispense with the band entirely and free-float the barrel. Personally I like the look of it with the band myself.
     
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    What about drilling out the existing Barrel band? You will need a different O ring but they are pretty cheap,and if you have everything sized correctly,you wont need the cutout for the oring to sit in either.
     
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    I contemplated that, but there's not really enough meat on the standard one to drill it out further. You'll still need the cutout for the o ring too, otherwise what's it going to sit in? You could drill it out and not use an o ring I suppose. You'll also need a 15mm or slightly larger drill bit. Cheaper and better to get rowan to do it properly for you.
     
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    well I'm going to give Rowan a call as I want a natural ally one anyways ..is there anything I need to protect the barrell once it's all on (a certain grease or whatever)???
     
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    I haven't had a look at the S400 barrel band,You could probably still get the o-ring to sit there,it just wouldn't have anything to locate in.

    We carbon wrapped the barrel on our S400 but it didn't look right at all,too skinny
     
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    We cover the barrel in thick oil before putting a shroud on,regardless of the gun/setup...if a bit of moisture gets under there,it's trapped and will not be pretty when you take it off.
     
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    yeah I thought I would need a little protection any specific oil ?? sorry for all the questions I want to get it right
     
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    Silicone grease so long as you don't let it get anywhere else. I didn't have any at the time so just slathered it in moly gun grease (same as cv joint grease from Halfords and the like).
     
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    Anything will do really.I used ballistol,don't like using grease.Ballistol is thin enough to spread out but thick enough to stay in place and it emulsifies when in contact with moisture instead of repelling it and pushing it elsewhere.
     

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