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Shroud internals for Stealth, Talon/SS

Discussion in 'Gun Gallery' started by Bodhisdad, Apr 11, 2008.

  1. Bodhisdad

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    I've been at the quiet game ever since i got my rig, almost 3 yrs. now. I've tried many combhinations, done alot of research. I've come up with a couple of really effective designs. Here they are, now all work well, very but when the FPE's start to climb so does the robustness of the internals need to be. The weirach type system works very well, but is relatively weak and prone to clipping once the pressure climb inside. The copper baffle system worked very well, but th ehardware cloth (mesh) make smor esense to me as it lets mor eair get trapped in th econfines of the mesh, vs. the flow through of the copper tubing. When i moved from the 12" barrel to the 18" i switched out to the mesh type setup. Here is the pics.
    Pic below is of the stack 0 on the square is barrel side. The urethane washer sits on the end of barrel my front bushing is vented as well as the frame. This seems to act as a decompression chamber and lets quite a bit of air be released. The baffle stack is based on research done into .22lr rimfire suppressors.
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    Here the mesh is cut to length of 1.5" and 1" respectively. I spin it on a 1/4" rod as pictured.
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    Here the mesh is as a baffle as its slid down into the shroud it will tighten up as it tries to unspin. Making for a self tightening fit.
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    This is the urethane washer i use at the end of barrel. It is well outside of the crown so i can not see any problems with trajectory. It also provides a place for the baffles to rest against.
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    here it all is on the gun. The impact of the pellet is by far the loudest you hear. Next is the noise from the tank/brech area a ping/slap combination. More pronounced then it realy is as your ear is right there.
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    Here is a few pics of what i had with just a 12" barrel and everything was contained in the frame. PVC slides over the end of barrel and rests against the front bushing which is vented as well. Then the urethane bushing provides a transition from PVC to 1"od copper tubing which acts as baffles, spaced out with 1" fender washers. either of the two designs work well and are easy, cheap to come up with. I hope some else can benefit from this post.
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  3. andyhawkx3

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    So in actual fact you have made, a home made silencer...if so are you selling this information, or giving it away?
     
  4. Bodhisdad

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    Whats there to sell, its all there for any to take advantage of. Both work very well and cost next to nothing to make. I noticed one of the pics from the first post didn't show up its fixed now. Shows the whole stack as it would be placed in the shroud. It is a home made design, all of them are to some extent. This idea came from pics of copyrighted designs, linkk below. I decided to do this because i didn't want to drop $100+ on something i knew was pretty easy to do, with a little experimenting. Don't let fancy covers fool you, much of what is inside is pretty low tech.
    http://www.braindex.com/products/pdfs/gun_silencer.pdf
     
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  5. andyhawkx3

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    Well mine felt washers cost £2.00, in my silencer, so whats the big deal inthe states about silencers?...can you have silencers, on your air guns or not:confused:
     
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    Its a grey area, i would say if i went out hunting with it, i'd take mine off just to be safe, or empty the shroud.
     
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    "o" like that is it,:down::(.... Glad lve got mine on my ticket:up::)....but l wouldn't be able to sell the silencer, because it isn't approved
     
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    All things being as they are i'll take the silencer restriction over the power limitations anyday. I've got mine up to 53 fpe in .22 with just a 18" barrel. If i threw in a 24" i'd be around 62fpe conservatively. With that said, thats why i searched out a more robust design, like the wire mesh or some rimfire configuration.
     
  9. andyhawkx3

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    l do a little playing about myself:D
     
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    Silencers on firearms are legal in many of the states. It requires a $200 tax and paper work.

    On Airguns they are totally legal and are sold in the states with moderators/shrouds with no problem.

    The problem is if a airgun moderator can be used on a firearm and there is not paper work to approve it.
     
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    arent gun laws fun:rolleyes:
     
  12. andyhawkx3

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    Yep, great ay-it:D
     
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    there are some great loop holes in the country and not all in the fire arm bit.

    i like to look for pointless laws that you can legaly break:D
     
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    Well be very careful then A1 because there is still a law on the statute book that says it's legal to kill a Welshman crossing the border into England on a Friday, if he plans to sell his wares !!!:eek:
     
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    only with a cross bow i think the law is and after midninght:up:

    anyway im about as far away from the border as you can get.
    right on the west coast i am so i'm well out of range:D

    the further away you are the better:D
     
  16. andyhawkx3

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    How about this one, you can go fishing legally, with Rod, line, float baited hook (half inch gap) with luncheon meat on the hook, during the annual, close season for coarse fish, on a river...you are catching barble & chub...
    If a water bailiff asks you what you are fishing for, you reply is eels..true;)
     
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    i do like fishing but didnt get a license this year...after geting 3 shoots i like land fishing:D
     
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    we can put you in the car ash tray (being as you are only small), after buzz, has done his Robin Hood impersonation, and transport you to the border:D
     
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    i like my spot right here, well away from you lot:D
     

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