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Should we start a lobby?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by FXpoacher, Jul 22, 2008.

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  1. FXpoacher

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    "The british air rifle lobby".
    Better than bending over for the antis!
     
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    im in:D

    ill put the kettle on:D
     
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    We need another member to bring the hob nobs!
     
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    i like custard creams best;)
     
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    Of course this thread would of made more sense, if a certain mod, (read as Buzz) hadn't deleted a whole debate as he did'nt like what was said, sorry i mean we didnt agree with his point of veiw.
    Nicley edited there buzz!:mad:
     
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    i support anything that protects our support you don't say whether your for or against the idea though fxpoacher did you start this thread because you think it's a good idea or a bad idea
     
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    My original post wasn't meant to be a debate, it was a statement of intent...which still stands incidentally. I didn't delete it, I closed it.
     
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    but deletedthe posts before the closure
     
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    Can I be treasurer? I'm top notch at embezzlement:D:D
     
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    I'm am against promoting ilegal aktivities.
    It's just that no one has made a post saying "Do this to your rifle to screw the last fpe out of it!".
    I'm all for freedom of choice and as i said in one (Now missing!) post ,if a rifle owner has a rifle that is over the limit, that is between him and the judge only.
    Everyone who get's into airguns knows there is a power limit, and they have read that in magazines and on forums. For them to say they had no idea is just stupid.

    Also, yes i do beleive there should be a "British airgun lobby", as i think it is time that we, (and yes i am aware i live overseas, but mayby i will be back one day!), stood up to the antis and promoted airgunning in a more responsible light than what the media do.

    The antis have made most airgunners paranoid about breaking the law, that they are actually making us paranoid without having to do anything!.

    All of this was what i said last night, along with A1, but suddenly the post's were deleted.
    Not cool Buzz.

    If it wasnt a debate, just notification, why didnt you lock the thread straight away?
     
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    Yes Mate!!.
    As long as you embezzel it our way!!
     
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    On another thread a while back i dared to suggest that we do proactive things to protect our sport and some of the ideas included having a lobby or governing body to protect our sport and i took no end of flack for it and you were one of the people that shot down my ideas and said they were a waste of time now i'm not trying to start an argument i just wonder why you have changed your mind because if there has been something that has changed your mind it may be usefull in changing the mind of the the others that have had negativity towards doing things to protect our sport
     
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    I dont think i said it was a waste of time did i?:eek:

    It's just i see on all UK airgun forums that we have to be carefull not to say this or show that.
    You don't see this on any other overseas forum, so it obviously must be an english thing.
    Then over the last few months i see that everybody is scared of having their sport taken away , and dos'nt want to rock the boat.
    I'm just saying that if you believe in somthing, you have to fight for it, or "they" will walk all over us.

    the media only make up news to please their readers/veiwers.
    If their readers/veiwers see us in a good light, the media have to follow suit.

    And a lobby for just airguns would be a good way for the public to see us. Organised and involved in the rule making, and kicking up a stink when some muppet in parliment is looking for easy PR.

    Try to find that thread for me JJ and i will read through it again:eek:!.
     
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    There is a thread on here about whether we'd be prepared to be licensed read through that one i think you will find it interesting reading i basically said the same thing about fighting for our sport and i suggested that we need to be flexible and try to work with the goverment and threw out various suggestions as to how we could make things work should the goverment decide to try to legislate further and i was basically abused and called the enemy of the sport i agree with what your saying unfortunatly most airgunners want to hide in the background and hope they slip through the cracks of our legal system
     
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    OK, but i was thinking more like forcing the goverment or we vote for the "other guy".

    When they see that there are X amount of possible votes for them, but they need to improve our sporting oppertunities to get them.

    Is there any UK lobby groups out there that are soley for airgunners?. How many airgunners are there out there 500,000, 1000,000?. I'm no fan of the unions, but together we are stronger.

    I just don't think sitting on our a$$es moaning about it is enough. We do need to rock the boat and show joe public that we are responsible, whether it be plinking, pestcontrol or HFT/FT.

    Think it's time for everyone to stand up and be counted, or stop moaning about how people damage our sport!
     
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    there is no lobby that is purely for airguns we get lumped together with the other shooting sports but don't get the same respect every single sport in this country has a governing body that is in consultation with the goverment to manage the best interests of the sport and i think it's about time that airguns were given the same respect and had a nationally recognised organisation in charge whether it was something along the lines of the cpsa or something more advanced like the fa are to football we need a united voice that is recognised by the goverment and the public alike
     
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    OK, so i was looking through AGW whilst in the library,(bog), and saw an add for "The British Airgun Shooters Association".

    Now i've never heard of them in the news, so i checked out their website, and was given the impression that:
    1. AGW and Airgunner own/run it
    2. The BASC own/run it
    3. They have nice looking badges, but looks like they are making money through selling insurance.

    Now i came to nr 3 as when i googled them, all that come up was about their insurance.:confused:
    So am i right in thinking that this is no more than a money spinning idea to sell insurance and badges?
     
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    there doesnt seem anything to promote the sport.
    you dont get a national day of airgunning do you:p

    you get shooting in biathlon things and thats not frowned apon yet when one shoots without skii's then they are bad people:confused:

    you know come to think of it i wonder if skii's would make your stading shots more stable:D
     
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    Probably, but after ski ing 5kms at full pelt you have to admire their accuracy. Then if they miss, they have to go round again!!!.

    Mayby all the UK's HFT clubs should have an open day on the same day. Local news papers would jump at the chance to report on a local event. That would do no end for the sport!
     
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    yep clubs never ever go looking for member or try to reach out to promote the sport.

    its juniors they really want to go after because it'll be great if this generation got everyone into it but then theres no one to pass down the buck to
     
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