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Shotgun Certificate Renewal......

Discussion in 'Shotguns (SGC)' started by Storcky, Jan 2, 2021.

  1. Seasicksteve74

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    Shooting rats and pigeon (with crosman & potential new air rifle )
     
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    Oh that puts another light on it .

    If you don’t get the doctor to send in a medical assessment you won’t get your interview with the Feo for him to make an assessment of the facts and make a recommendation to return your certificate or not.
    That’s why they send the revocation letter and require you to apply again when ready.

    Good luck with the new application.
     
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    Thank you for the advice

    The police were not helpful at all
     
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    What dogs do you work ? I work cockers.
     
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    Nice!!!! get that application back in, pay the doctor, hopefully we will have a normal season next year and you won’t want to be shooting on Boxing Day or beaters day don’t you.

    Cheers Andy
     
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    2506sendero Legend in his own mind & living on the edge.

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    Am i the only one reading this thread that is finding myself moving from being a bit surprised to more than a bit annoyed that Covid 19, and all the possible anxiety issues that goes with it, appears to be being used by the powers that be as an excuse to revoke or refuse FAC's/SGC's - how can this be the case?
     
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    Not sure but all I can say is I appreciate your support...

    Been honest all me life
    Lost a third of my salary this year
    At threat of redundancy still

    All I can say is be 100% honest with the police and hopefully things will get better
     
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    To me it’s six of one half a dozen of the other.

    Poor explanation by the police but..... had he returned a doctors report to say he was not any sort of danger he would likely have had a quick phone interview with the FEO and his certificate back in a short period.
    You can’t blame the police for wanting his doctors opinion once informed he is suffering issues. If they don’t get it they are left with little choice.
    The doctor was the one really taking the Mick with the price of the report.
     
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    The police nor Dr gave me any advice!

    The only advice from the police was
    1. Post back the cert and sell the guns or
    Post back the cert and hand in your guns
    Or else - or else what ?
    Well armed officers will be at your door - i was extremely worried

    No advice what so ever from anyone
     
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    You should of come on here mate.
     
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    2506sendero Legend in his own mind & living on the edge.

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    @r10hunter if your ticket is actually revoked on renewal for any medical reasons, what procedure do plod have to put in place re the selling of your firearms, and what sort of time scale can a person expect in this unfortunate scenario?
     
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    Two options:
    if they refuse to renew only you have until your existing certificate expires normally a reasonable period to put your guns in storage with an RFD sell them or hand them in to be destroyed.

    If they also suspend your existing certificate due to that evidence you may either be given a couple of days to dispose of your guns and return your certificate or they may turn up without warning and require you to hand over your guns and certificate if the information they discovered is considered enough of a risk and telling someone to dispose of their guns and their certificate won’t be renewed may send them over the edge. I

    If they seize your guns you always retain title of them and are entitled to have them returned to someone else with a shotgun certificate or an RFD. The police will sign the guns onto this persons certificate.
     
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    buffy vampire slayer LOW BELLEND THRESHOLD

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    my son got his renewal (west yorks) last month.
    it took the full 3 months and there was no doctors letter needed and his interview,over the phone consisted of the usual mental health and drinking questions.
     
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    I wonder if the doctors letter is an age thing - i'm with WY also and this is the first time that i've had to cough up for a doctor's report in 30 years as a ticket holder.
     
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    If he did not declare any issues on his application the doctor would just return the questionnaire to check that what he said on his renewal form was correct.
    They ALWAYS get a doctors questionnaire back now it’s required by the legislation.

    I expect the doctor just did not bother to charge your son and returned the form.

    If you don’t declare any issues the doctor just completes a simple form.
    If you declare issues a full report is required from the doctor.

    No, they just changed the law recently requiring the police to obtain confirmation from your doctor that you have no issues and that he has made a note on your medical records that you are a firearms holder.

    The same rules apply to everyone regardless of age.

    In the future you will be required to get the doctors form returned before being given authority to complete the application form and apply for renewal.
     
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    This business with doctors charging is totally out of order ,if they are going to charge set a flat fee across the board for everyone or nothing at all , they’re asked to ( in my mind ) provide a medical service as they would if you saw them in person, which shouldn’t be used to boost their bank accounts, mine seems decent enough not to charge when I applied for renewal early this year .
     
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    Doctors do this in their own time but 150 is steep. Mine has cost 45 for an initial application as my cert ran out a few years ago.
     
  18. buffy vampire slayer

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    just to repeat,my son got his renewal back a couple of days before crimbo.
    this is his 4th licence, he's 25,he reported no medical issues and there was no charge and no contact from the doctors and like me he's West Yorkshire.
     
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    glad hear it, I was commenting on the post about paying 150. I’m glad your son had no bother. I’ve been waiting since October for my medical letter.
     
  20. Jasongtr

    Jasongtr Jasongtr___________Jasongtr___________Jasongtr

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    Strange this

    whilst it’s obviously the right thing to do to advise of any stress especially if you were signed off work by a doctor so it’s then on record, best to be honest naturally, what is concerning is if the police thought you were a potential threat saying for you to be in the guns in or sell them hardly seems logical, you are either a danger with them in which case they I would of thought would be right round to get them or you see not, not sure what to make of it, if you were considered unsuitable to be granted or renewed a licence surely you having them for a few weeks whilst you sell them is the same as having them unlawfully as they deemed you unsuitable from the point they advise you to sell or surrender them
     

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