1. The Forum Rules have undergone some minor changes and updates.  Please take the time to read them; it will only take a couple of minutes of your time. By doing so, you lessen the chance of incurring the wrath of the moderation team or making yourself look foolish to other members.

    90% of users posting adverts in the Sales forums need to be reminded to read the rules as their posts are wrong.  This is unnecessarily time-consuming and will no longer happen - if your advert doesn't follow the Sales Rules it will be deleted and you'll have to start all over again.

    To close this box once you've read it (and the Rules), click on the X in the top right-hand corner.

    Thank you.

    AGF Staff



    Dismiss Notice
  2. A reminder of one of the Forum Rules:

    'Behaviour

    Do not make inappropriate or offensive posts - including threats, harassment, swearing, prejudice, defamation, deliberate insults or name-calling, other negative remarks about this forum, its moderators and administrators or your fellow members. Even if this is just your own personal opinion, RESPECT YOUR FELLOW MEMBERS.'

    There have been changes made to our censoring software in an attempt to help with this growing problem.

    Click the X in the top-right-hand corner to dismiss this notice.
    Dismiss Notice
  3. Dear members,

    Our membership (like our country) consists of people from all walks of life; different in far more ways than can be listed here and each with a different view based on their experience of life - regardless of their colour, religion or cultural heritage. Every single person in the UK has been born of mixed race – we are a multi-coloured and multi-cultural country.

    As many of you are aware there are a handful of individuals amongst this membership that persist in making provocative, inflammatory, racist and otherwise offensive comments. This has been happening across the forum to a certain degree but is most especially prevalent in the Adult section.

    The moderation team has tried to stay on top of this, however unfortunately because of the ‘offensive’ nature of much of its content we don’t monitor the Adult section quite as much as perhaps we should. As a result much of this behaviour has gone unnoticed unless it has been reported to us. While the team always intended to take a "light touch" approach to the Adult section it would seem that some people aren’t quite adult enough to be left unmonitored after all.

    This behaviour is, and always has been against Forum Rules as well as the specific stipulations of the Adults forum and it will no longer be tolerated. We feel it's time to draw a line in the sand and as such from this point onward offenders will receive an immediate and permanent ban from the forum.

    In order for us to achieve our goal of restoring the forum to the friendly and tolerant place it once was, we ask that ALL members be mindful of the content they post and help us to stop unacceptable behaviour by using the 'Report' tool at the bottom of any offending post - the results of which can be seen only by Admin/Moderators.

    You should all receive a copy of this message by PM. 

    To close this message box, click on the 'X' in the top-right-hand corner.

    Dismiss Notice
  4. Hotmail block emails from us entering your inbox. Unless you can setup a safe sender you will not get activation emails from the forum. Please use an alternative provider or complain to Hotmail.
    Hotmail addresses include.

    @Hotmail.co.uk @Hotmail.com @outlook.com @Live.com
    Dismiss Notice
  5. Postings on Politics, Religion & Controversial Off-Topic Material

    The majority of users do not want to read about these subjects and people have left the forum as a result of it – this is after all an 'Airgun' Forum. It’s all very well to say they don’t have to read it if they don't want to, but as most of us use the ‘New Posts’ button there is no easy way to avoid it.

    All AGF staff members are in favour of people being able to discuss what they want, but we have to draw the line somewhere if it is upsetting other users. We don’t want to read about these topics either.

    IMPORTANT- The discussion of politics and religion is no longer allowed anywhere on the forum (including the Adult section).  The only exception is if it's airgun related - they must be put in the Airgun Related Politics section..

    We will not tolerate bullying or personal attacks, racism or any other offensive 'isms'. we will remove these topics from the forum, we will not give you an area where you can abuse each other. We will not hesitate to ban offenders.

    To clear this text box, click on the 'X' in the top right-hand corner.

    Dismiss Notice

Shooting on your land (What's your view?)

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by erifle, Feb 19, 2008.

  1. erifle

    erifle Active Member

    Messages:
    28
    Likes Received:
    2
    Hi
    It is apparent from number of Internet forums that due to the tightening of shooting laws that there is an increasing number us of Air Gun enthusiasts willing to contribure a nominal fee to landowners (or perhaps provide a service for at no cost to either party) for the privilege of being able to shoot vermin or simply practice target shooting over various ranges (e.g. the growing popularity of Hunter Field Target shooting known as HFT)
    Are there any Farming or Landowners out there who would be prepared to allow sensible people to shoot on your land if they could prove affiliation and are Insured with a recognized body such as the British Association for Shooting and Conservation etc?
    Under what circumstances would you allow shooting on your land - including fee/free, insurance, type of shooting etc.
    Interested to know your views
    Thanks
    erifle.co.uk
     
  2. simply james

    simply james Banned

    Messages:
    5,088
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Cloud 9
    i know up here in the north east,its getting harder every day to find land to shoot on ,quite a few people i know can only shoot if thet pay for it sometimes £20 a day so they cant do much shooting because of the payment,i now work for a mate part time doing security for big private develpoers who buy things like delapatated properties with lots of land with it ,they do a bit of work on it and waite for the prices to go up and then sell them,so if i can get some one a shoot that way with the land owners permission i do ,infact top cat give a lad my number i got him a shoot,on prime land that hasnt been touched for years full of everything ,it works well people who are tresspassing se some one walking in the woods se security patrols all over the place,they dont come near i think littlescoot will be very happy with his new shoot,thes shoots dont come up very often but when they do i like to give a fellow air gunner a chance for free.
     
  3. topcat

    topcat Posting Addict

    Messages:
    1,363
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Sunderland
    i think its a disgrace to have to pay for doing a job might rap up if it comes to that good one james
     
  4. simply james

    simply james Banned

    Messages:
    5,088
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Cloud 9
    top cat years ago farmers were paying uss to get rid of vermin,now they think we should pay them ,i know not all farmers are like that but a lot are,ive done security work on a lot of big coyuntry mansions ,and when they have been finished im on about property with lots of land,and when the new owners get it ive asked if theres any chance of using part of the woods,out of about 30 only 2 have ever said yes in all the years ,so when there empty i get written permission off my boss,and if i can help some one i will,theres nothing worse than having a new kit and having no where to use it.
     
  5. topcat

    topcat Posting Addict

    Messages:
    1,363
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Sunderland
    i knocked on a old farmers door couple of years back for permision out in the middle of nowhere how much ya gan charge me said the farmer nowt its me hobby he couldnt get his head round it but was getting free pest control and gave me permision its lifting with bunnies.
     
  6. simply james

    simply james Banned

    Messages:
    5,088
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Cloud 9
    theres not many like that around now though is there.
     
  7. topcat

    topcat Posting Addict

    Messages:
    1,363
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Sunderland
    no there isnt james i was very surprised but think it was in such a remote setting the farmer wasnt clued up anyway we are pals now
     
  8. andyhawkx3

    andyhawkx3 Major Poster

    Messages:
    8,062
    Likes Received:
    44
    Location:
    Black Country, West Midlands
    l don't pay for shooting, on my shooting grounds weather it be targets or abit of supper, but l aways buy them a bottle of malt whiskey every year...just to say thank you for letting me shoot in there back garden:up:...think abt it...would you let and trust someone shoot in your back garden????....this guy has just knocked on ya door.......:confused:
     
  9. topcat

    topcat Posting Addict

    Messages:
    1,363
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Sunderland
    Allways get them a bottle of whisky at crimbo just to say thanks
     
  10. sumo

    sumo Posting Addict

    Messages:
    1,268
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Aberdeen
    .
    Your right Andy.
    We now live in a compensation world.
    Irrespective of whether a shooter is insured,the landowner is where the buck stops if there is a shooting accident.
    My public liability insurance premium is plain daft,but I must have it in case someone gets hurt on my land.
    I have 60 odd acres of prime woodland next to a private golf course which I dont even bother to shoot on anymore because of the volume of people walking about there and I cant keep them out out thanks to the "freedom to roam" act in scotland!.
    Its not that farmers dont want to let shooters onto their land for some sport,its the insurance liability that goes with it!.
    Thats just how it is now.
    Talk to Gordon Brown.
    Sumo.
     
  11. topcat

    topcat Posting Addict

    Messages:
    1,363
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Sunderland
    freedom to roam hope it gets introduced into england an englishman should be able to roam where he likes gordon will be getting my vote keep the tories out
     
  12. andyhawkx3

    andyhawkx3 Major Poster

    Messages:
    8,062
    Likes Received:
    44
    Location:
    Black Country, West Midlands
    Trouble is with that, if you take your gun with you, and don't have permission on that land....we are looking at armed trespass:(....think, l'd like to carry on just the way it stands now...;)

    If the right to roam, is given to the public in England...it will be the beginning of the end, for all that shoot on private land...There will be more shooting accidents....then the farmers will STOP us shooting altogether:(...Why because you will be shooting in a public place:eek:
     
    Last edited: Feb 22, 2008
  13. topcat

    topcat Posting Addict

    Messages:
    1,363
    Likes Received:
    3
    Location:
    Sunderland
    not really sure about that andy i have 2 shoots with public footpaths and no one stops me shooting
     
  14. simply james

    simply james Banned

    Messages:
    5,088
    Likes Received:
    1
    Location:
    Cloud 9
    same as above mate.
     
  15. andyhawkx3

    andyhawkx3 Major Poster

    Messages:
    8,062
    Likes Received:
    44
    Location:
    Black Country, West Midlands
    So do l, but since the changing of the law in April, my land owner has told me to stay well clear of the public access, to the private pools, as the anglers have been asking the farmer, abt firearms being used in a public place:confused: lm as confused as you are, so l am doing as instructed, l am FAC, But there again, all airguns, as well as sub 12 fps are being classed as firearms now:(
     
  16. a1gunner

    a1gunner Pro Poster

    Messages:
    6,308
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Cardigan
    with a 12ftlbs airgun you can't be closer than 15meters to the middle of a road or footpath and so on.

    could be further on more powerful firearms but thats all i know about it.
    you have as much righ to be there as they do
     
  17. andyhawkx3

    andyhawkx3 Major Poster

    Messages:
    8,062
    Likes Received:
    44
    Location:
    Black Country, West Midlands
    All you need is one nerves person, and a mobile phone...then the smell stuff its the fan....sod havin the right to roam.....there a few Scottish lads joined the forum of late....wonder if they can enlighten us on this roaming malarkey
     
  18. a1gunner

    a1gunner Pro Poster

    Messages:
    6,308
    Likes Received:
    0
    Location:
    Cardigan
    soimular thing happend the other day

    couple of people walking dogs through one of my shoots so i just sat tight till they passed didnt notice me in my cammo gear and walked right past
     
  19. andyhawkx3

    andyhawkx3 Major Poster

    Messages:
    8,062
    Likes Received:
    44
    Location:
    Black Country, West Midlands
    just imagine if you had not seen them, if they had got down, for abit of rumpy pumpy, and you took a shot at what ever and missed in, there line of fire...no that would put a sting in the tail:eek:......l don't want people walking abt on my shoot thank you very much:down:...could you, just imagine having 60acres of wood land, on your ticked and not be able to shoot it, l have got that much on my favorite shoot...if there where people, dogs...l'd call it a day...l wouldn't take the chance of killing someone:down:...we'd all be reduced to shooting in our bk gardens, or at ranges:(
     
  20. sumo

    sumo Posting Addict

    Messages:
    1,268
    Likes Received:
    4
    Location:
    Aberdeen
    Freedom to roam act (scotland) is a total farce!.
    Imagine having allsorts wandering about in your back garden and having no legal powers to kick them off.
    Same thing as having allsorts wandering about your land at all times.
    Private land should be private land period. The landowner having paid a **** load of money for it, should at least be able to dictate who should be there and when.
    Much safer for all concerned!.
    As I have previously stated,I have 60 acres of land next to a PRIVATE golf course (try walking about there unattested without paying your fees!) and have many folks wandering about in my wood for a walk when there partners are getting a round of golf in.
    All it takes is someone with an attitude to take offence at legal shooters on the same piece of land to dial 999 and say they spotted someone in camo with a gun, to set the ball rolling.
    Next thing you know is when you have had your shoot you are met with a bunch of ARU officers pointing very live MP5S at you telling you to get on the ground!,its happened too as a friend of mine will tell you.
    Thats how it is here,surely this is wrong!.

    sumo,
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice