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shooting at night

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by The_Saint, Jun 24, 2012.

  1. The_Saint

    The_Saint Engaging Member

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    enjoying my time shooting farm rats at my permission farm, but when the nights draw in, would i still be able to shoot them using a super bright LED torch mounted on my sights, or do i need one of those Infra Red thingys?

    thanks, matt
     
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    Id try a laser designator , the cheapest ones on flea bay are about £35 and great for night shooting , pleanty of threads on here and vids on youtube , love mine
     
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    I use an LED torch for ratting. It's nothing posh, but it has resulted in lots of dead rats, so I'm sticking with it.
     
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    Night vision.
     
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    a LED torch is good, but go for a red light they don't see red so they don't even know its on.
    Look on ebay for surefire, there great quality and will be sorted with one.
     
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    Hmmm...not strictly true as some, not all, soon run when you get the red beam on them...Its still pretty affective though IMHO
     
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    As I understand it, rats have poor vision in the red spectrum but they are still very sensitive to brightness so even though the beam is red coloured it is still bright hence the rats being aware when the beam is on them.

    That being said, a filtered lamp is still a lot more effective than its unfiltered equivalent. I find eye shine is more apparent when the beam is filtered aswell.
     
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    hello , as an oldy rat shooter and tried most, unless you can go to a proper scope n/v, you can do very well with a dull red beam torch, better with a red lamp kit, or try making a n/v set up like many are doing on here fixed to a parallax scope. about red light though and rats, an interesting thought, i did try a green light but to no success, ok for rabbits though. do we have any wise forum members that can say why red is best.
     
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    I've found that no particular colour is best, but that chnaging colours every so often works well. I think this is because the rats get used to the light (and learn that whenever they see it some of them don't come home) and that changing the colour means they don't associate the new colour light with this happening. What I do is to use the cellophane wrappers from chocolates as a cheap multi-coloured filter set.

    Obviously, I'd prefer a dedicated NV setup, but that's not going to happen any time soon, so I'll stick with the above method for a while, I think.
     
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    Night vision is the way forward. However, if its too expensive or time consuming, I would suggest a red Cree LED torch. You can get them from China for about £6 and they are fantastic for ratting. Rats dont see red light as well as other colours, making it very effective!
     
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    Here is a link for you. Red works well for rats because they dont have as many cones in they eye which is what allows them to see colour. The colours they can see are further down the spectrum including Ultra-Violet. They use this for marking territory and tracks. Anyway, their ability to see red light is limited therefor it works well for lamping them. They do have a good amount of rods in their eyes which allows them to see the cifference between light and dark. Hence a dull red light working better than a intense bright red light.

    http://www.ratbehavior.org/RatVision.htm

    HTH



     
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    Funnily enough Gordon the rats i have been shooting recently spook with red light but not green :)


    QUOTE=ratman60;637824]hello , as an oldy rat shooter and tried most, unless you can go to a proper scope n/v, you can do very well with a dull red beam torch, better with a red lamp kit, or try making a n/v set up like many are doing on here fixed to a parallax scope. about red light though and rats, an interesting thought, i did try a green light but to no success, ok for rabbits though. do we have any wise forum members that can say why red is best.[/QUOTE]
     
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    i use nite vision now and it is better but i use to use a lamp with different colour filters and always worked well . doesnt need to be a top of the range lamp as long as you get eye shine it does the job atb
     

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