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Good news She Was Close

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Andy yam, Jul 2, 2018.

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  1. Andy yam

    Andy yam Jack of all trades

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    Well what an end to an eventful evening I decided to take @Jesterdog up on his offer and headed over to his place with the old girl in the boot (hw80 not the wife)
    All I can say “what a gent it was a real pleasure to meet you Wayne” as soon as got there the kettle went on, a bit of a chin wag then down to business.
    Time to chrono the 80, when I put her back together I used the thinnest washers and even then Will said she might be a bit warm, until tonight I’d only put 3 down the barrel just to make sure I hadn’t made a hash of putting her back together obviously I hadn’t cleaned all the cylinder of oil as I could have as the 1st shot sounded more like a 22lr and punched a hole through the wood I shot at :eek: 2nd 2 sounded better, but without a chrono I wasnt happy
    Anyhooo Wayne set the chrono up and we put a string of 5 through it, readings were a pleasant surprise highest 11.9 then settled to around 11.5 using h&n ftt, quick cigarette and a chat then we put another string through same results.
    Then Wayne brought his rifles out the 99, 97 Fenman and the AAs400 to have a little play with
    I was like a kid in a candy store
    Once again Wayne thanks a lot 1 for putting my mind at ease regarding the 80
    2 letting me have a play with your rifles
    And 3 for giving me an open invite to call in whenever :thumb:
    Top man jesterdog :D
     
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    mikeyhall1 BRIT SEALS - M & M Products - TbT

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    Great stuff Andy. Not a bad old bunch on this forum:)
     
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    Good stuff Andy :thumb:
     
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    Andy yam Jack of all trades

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    After the thread about chrono’s I have to get 1 just to give me piece of mind I don’t want her creeping up as I believe can happen with springers :rolleyes:
     
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    Andy yam Jack of all trades

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    Ya not wrong there mikey :thumb:
     
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    Glad you had a good time Andy and it was great to meet you :) It was a pleasure to have you here and I look forward to you revisiting soon.
    Nice to be able to put a face to a member :up:
     
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    Two top guy's.. :thumb:

    Ray
     
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    If my ( limited ) experience is anything to go by, if your rifle is recording 11.5 with H&N FTT it will give a significantly higher reading with lighter pellets ( JSB express or rs ).
     
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    Andy yam Jack of all trades

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    Hummmm that was the nagging doubt I had as well I was contemplating crimping a coil so be safe ?
     
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    Better safe ( and nicer to cock/shoot ). In a recent test my HW97 gave ( 10 shot average ):- JSB express 11.4, H&N FTT 10.4, JSB RS 11.0, AADF 10.7.
    I opted to "tune" for express and now prefer using the lighter pellets ( this is in .177 ).
     
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    Great work to you both, its stuff like this that makes this easily the best forum on the interweb. :up:
     
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    Andy yam Jack of all trades

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    You’ve hit the nail on the head there Glyn 100% :thumb:
     
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    robs5230 Oversprung

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    Spot on with that. I tune mine exactly the same.
     
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    I was going to comment on this earlier but Jamex beat me to it. Just out of interst Andy, what calibre and barrel length have you got ? And how much preload do you have on the spring (before the threads of the trigger block conenct to the cylinder) ?
     
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    It’s a .22 full length barrel as for pre-load now ya asking very little resistance on spring before I was able to connect the trigger block ! If that help used both the thinnest washers on either end of the drop in kit I know for sure if I’d used the thicker then she would definitely been hot
     
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    I reckon you'd get away with more than crimping a coil with the full length barrel in .22. I did one with a delrin kit and a 310 barrel about 2 years ago that was on the verge of negative preload. I'd bet a pound to a pinch of shyte that you're most likely still oversprung. I'd be nipping a bit off rather than compressing. Wahichever way you go you would be far better setting with a lighter pellet. As said above it would be way too hot with express or RS.
     
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    When I get some time off from work I’ll chrono her with sum lighter lead and see what she spits out but thank you for the advice rob it’s the first strip refurb and tune I’ve done so it’s all a bit of a learning curve and the last thing I want is grief with the rozzers thanks mate :thumb:
     
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    As a bonus I've found (as a few others have) that lighweight pellets offer very good accuracy and in the field I've seen very clean kills.
     
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    If you're checking it in the middle of a heatwave you will probably find the output to be significantly different when the temperature drops later in the year.
    My HW77 gains at least 1/2 ft•lb during the winter months so that I have to reshim the spring preload to compensate.
    Worth a regular regime of checking until the gun settles in and the piston seal beds into the cylinder etc.
     
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