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SGC application advice..

Discussion in 'Firearms Certificate (FAC) Guns' started by Damian1225, Jun 30, 2012.

  1. Damian1225

    Damian1225 Well-Known Member

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    Im hoping to send in my application for an SGC soon but have a couple of questions/concerns..

    1.) how much land do you need permission on? I have one with 16 acres.. And one with six acres... And another three or four with only 2 acres or so each.. Do I have enough ground to satisfy the need to own a shotgun?

    2.) in my younger years i was no angel and had a few convictions of driving without a license and also recieved a caution for posession of canabis.. This was well over 15 years ago and I have been an outstanding member of society since.. Will this affect my application?

    Any advice/help is welcomed

    Also what shotgun calibres and cartridge type would i need for pigeons, rabbits and fox??
     
  2. brettguise

    brettguise Busy Member

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    I have just gone through the application and was shocked at how easy it actually was. You wont need to declare your land or anything so that's fine. As for convictions just declare them on the application. Something that stuck in my mind was when my firearms officer said some people with dark pasts still have a licence. I hardly consider what you claim to be a dark past really so id say you will be fine, its 15 years ago and if you come clean I think you will be fine :)

    As for shotgun 12g is always going to come up on top as the all rounder. At the minute I use Gamebore clear pigeon 30g for everything in my 12g excluding foxes.

    I also went for a .410 for a fur gun, enjoy taking the dogs out with my .410 after rabbits squirrels and roosting pigeons etc. I wouldn't use it for decoying but some would. I use 3" 16g cartridges. If you go for the .410 just double check you can fit them in if you want to use them :)

    As for fox I don't have any experience with a shotgun and a fox but it would again be 12g with the suitable cartridge and load. Id imagine a heavy load.
     
  3. JohnnyC

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    With your convictions let them know everything. If you withold anything they will find out.
    Unless you've been inside for 3 years+ you will probably be alright.

    You don't need permissions but they will ask you why you want a shotgun. A legitimate answer would be clay shooting/pest control.

    With the SGC they have to prove why you do not need one if they choose to refuse you - unlike FAC where you'd have to prove why you need one.

    I'd use a 12 gauge for pigeons, rabbit and foxes- but appropriate loads for each (the size and amount of lead in the cartridge).

    Pigeons 30/6
    Pheasant 30/6
    Rabbits No5 shot
    Foxes 42g/3’s but make damn sure you're confident you can kill them cleanly.

    Oh and if you haven't got a cabinet and installed it yet I'd recommend it.
     
    Last edited: Jun 30, 2012
  4. Tailormadefun

    Tailormadefun Busy Member

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    If i was you dont say your after an SGC for pest control, you don't need a reason to own a shotgun, just say your into clay shooting and up for some rough shooting if it presents it self,

    As johnny said be COMPLETELY honest about convictions etc, they will find a reason not to give you one if you lie or withhold, and an understanding FEO will probably put it all down to boys will be boys.
     
  5. Kyska

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    Good post:up:

    Its pretty hard to be turned down a SGC, unless you are prohibited, or as many forces are taking a firm stance on, a convicted drink driver.

    I use the same shot for everything, 30g 6's but in 20b....I'm a little more refined:p, I don't use a shotgun for fox, unless it presents itself at 20 yards from me.

    You lose nothing to apply, other than time, so go for it, be honest and humble, they will ask you to explain yourself for previous conviction.
     
  6. masha

    masha Engaging Member

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    Like folk have already said, be completely open and honest about your past, THEY AINT STUPID I have a 10+1 benelli pump action for practical shot gun and slugs, never asked for the authority to go clay shooting with it, but i can, should raise a few pulses pulling a combat shot gun out of the slip at a clay shoot lol.
     
  7. Damian1225

    Damian1225 Well-Known Member

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    Some very good advice thanks to all for your replies..

    Will arrange a cabinet and get it sent off :)

    Thanks again

    Damian
     
  8. r10hunter

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    If you are going to do a lot of fox work especially driving think about a 3 1/2 inch chamber and a specialist choke. You can up your shot size and still keep a tight pattern killing cleanly at well over sixty yards. Cheers Andy
     

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