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semi auto recomendations

Discussion in 'Shotguns (SGC)' started by scoop, May 23, 2014.

  1. scoop

    scoop Busy Member

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    I'm thinking about getting a 12 bore semi auto
    what do you recomend and what should i avoid
     
  2. Donki Oaty

    Donki Oaty Where's the time going?

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    What's your budget bud?
     
  3. scoop

    scoop Busy Member

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    About £450
     
  4. Animal Mother

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    What will you be doing with it?
     
  5. scoop

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    Rabbits , mapies , crows and the odd pheasant
     
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    Beretta 300 series can't go far wrong

    got a cheap one going if interested £180 early A301
     
  7. talent

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    I'm a Mossberg fan myself .... reliable bit of kit
     
  8. Animal Mother

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    Buy this!
     
  9. engraver

    engraver Keyboard Hero

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    Yes Beretta 300 series are good, but if you could stretch your budget the Winchester SX3 or Browing maxus gets my vote, due to their small,size speed, and ease of cleaning.

    Just avoid hatsan!

    Some people swear by their hatstands but they will eventually wear out, I know a pigeon shooter who has worn a couple out now and he will have paid SX3/browning money by the time he has done.
     
  10. Animal Mother

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    That'll be a struggle within his £450 budget. SX2 and Browning Sporting are getting closer, but the Beretta is a better gun than those anyway.
     
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    engraver Keyboard Hero

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    Note the bit where I said "if you could stretch your budget" and when you say the beretta is a better gun, that's debatable, depends how you are built, personally I find the berretta guns a bit on the big side.

    I actually went to the shop originally to buy the Beretta xtrema 2, but there was a browing maxus at the side of it, so I bought that brand new for the same price.

    Ive shot 2500 pigeons with it so far without a hitch, and it weighs about the same as a 20 bore, which is good when your carrying all the gear.

    But I agree with a budget of £450 I would go beretta if you can everytime, but the semi auto world has evolved now with fans of benelli convinced they are the best, then the Winchester and browning owners convinced they are the best. just check out some of the US wildfowling forums to find that out, that's what I did and the SX3 and Browning have a dam good following now, they cant sell em fast enough.

    Personally I would wait to save a bit more money up and buy a new gun with warrenty just in case, because any semi even beretta can get issues, just nice to have piece of mind with a warrenty.
     
  12. scoop

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    Embbull7 pm sent
     
  13. scoop

    scoop Busy Member

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    What made you go down the semi auto route ?
    I've had a couple of old side by sides and i'm not having much joy with the one i have just now on longer shots
    Its a 1930 belgian 12 bore in good nick that belonged to a relation who died
    So i thought a 3 shot would be handy
     
  14. engraver

    engraver Keyboard Hero

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    I not going to lie im selling my own semi through no fault of the gun, its just the fact that after a days pigeon shooting im fed up picking shells up for half an hour, it spits them everywhere.

    Just fancy a 20 bore over and under as my 12 bore ou is a bit too nice for hide shooting.

    Saying that I will probably regret it because nothing is as versatile as a semi auto, plus cammo is a big bonus for hide shooting.

    I may have just talked myself out of it, now where did I see those shell catchers lol
     
  15. r10hunter

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    Hang on to the semi you know it makes sense.
    Have you got a silenced shotty, I bet one would suit you with the kind of shooting you do.I love mine in 20 bore.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    Somebody's selling a Browning Maxus - cracking gun. Lock time on them's amazing.
     
  17. engraver

    engraver Keyboard Hero

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    I think your referring to my advert in the swap section, I would only swap for a nice 20 bore ou, if it was interesting but apart from that I put it up for no other reason.

    And I may take Andy's advise and hang onto it, because I will regret it.

    As for speed I don't know how fast it is, only like all others do they say they are the worlds fastest cycling semi auto shotgun, but I wouldn't know because Ive only ever shot one other semi and it was a hatsan of my mates, and it is a totally different animal to that in every department, like I say it feels much slimmer and lighter than any other Ive picked up.

    Just a point to the OP the Winchester sx3 is very similar to the maxus apart from the gas porting mechanism and forend latch, but I noticed a cammo one on G star looked mint for £625 IIRC.

    Good thing about them also is they are fully adjustable at the head of the stock for drop and cast plus they have a few length shims, and fibre optic sights, you soon get them how you want.

    But I if I had money to burn I would go out and buy a Beretta extrema 2, but £1600 for a semi!!! the others I mention are nearly half that price and my second choice anyway.

    Old beretta's at the £450 mark will be well used, I know I looked at more than a few secondhand ones for around the £1000 mark and they were battered so it only made sense to buy a new browning for me.

    One point worth noting was I looked at a Beretta and it had a big swell just before the choke, someone obviously had used too tight of a choke with too big of a shell, the shop owner said it wasn't an issue but I wasn't having that, I asked if he would be saying the same if I was the one part exchanging it, anyway just watch out for that sometimes it isn't obvious, but semis really do get a tough time with the wildfowling boys on the salt marshes, get salt in the action and if it isn't cleaned after every trip it was destroy the internals.
     
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  18. scoop

    scoop Busy Member

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    Too late for embull7's shotgun damn
     
  19. anyoldiron

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    x2 on the Beretta OP i had a A303 when i lived in the Uk it was a great bit of kit. sold it for 425 quid in 2001, feck, it was in great shape

    l now own amongest others a Hatsan Escort, so unlike the poster here i can give you first hand review, it is surprising well made for the money, i put all manner of rounds through it including 3'' Winchester magnum solid slugs as it is my bear defense gun, i use it for trap shooting and grouse mainly, i have fired over 1500 rounds through it and is still working like it came out of the box, some of the finish has taken some hits , but that is me, not the gun.

    just my (an owners) .02
     
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    "Just avoid hatsan!"... untrue! Only peep's who ain't owned one say this.. perfectly good, well made guns and superb vfm.. 3 year warranty, and keep 'em clean and lubed properly and they will shoot just as well as any other sg costing 3 - 4 times as much! Wish peep's would stop knocking them purely on hearsay when they have no experience of them themselves.. I've never owned a Beretta or a Browning - so would never venture to comment on their attributes or faults! which I'm sure they have.
    The only thing that wears out every now and then.. like maybe after 1500 rounds or so, is the O ring.. and they cost under £3 for two.. and before you slide the new one on, or when putting it back on after cleaning the gun, smear it all over with light HMP grease and you won't have a problem.. also lube the spring, slide and piston assembly with car engine oil.. it's got a much higher temp. range, does not break down as fast as normal gun oil and prevents carbon build up better..
    :)
     
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