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Screen Recommendations for E700 on HMR

Discussion in 'Night Vision Optics and Illumination' started by tobys, Apr 21, 2014.

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    tobys Engaging Member

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    Just getting into NV and already picked up loads of great info here.
    One question though - anyone please advise best screen for 100yds plus with E700?
    Ideally small (as I'm thinking side mount) and fullest possible resolution and 4:3 format.
    Thanks in advance.
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    ive just spent an hour and a half on ebay, and im still no further forward.

    i have seen a 5" 640x480 but i doesnt have a swivel mount. if i turn up anything i'll let you know
     
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    I have this one (ebay item# 290804759940 ) its been fine for me with a E700 and the mount on the back is a ball joint so its possible to have the screen on the side of the gun with the screen either vertical or horizontal, I have left my mount snug but loose enough so I can move it to the top of the rifle in the field as it much more comfortable if I am sitting while using it.
     
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    how long do they take to arrive ....we have used the uk based 4.5 inch ones and while ok to 50/70 yds...a bitter better quality would be nice
     
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    This is quite a reasonable screen, I've had a couple and the delivery was about 2 weeks as far as I remember - definitely one of the quicker deliveries from China.
    If you want smaller AND high resolution your options are limited but you can get them as a screen and driver to assemble yourself into a case but they will cost a lot more than the off the shelf reversing monitors.
     
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    I ordered mine while the new year celebrations were on in China and still only took just under 2 weeks to get here, I was expecting it to be a month or more due to the new year, but for a change shipping was fast
     
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    I've got what looks to be the same screen other than the mount.
    It's pretty good to be honest, I've covered mine with red filter material, and that allows me to turn up the brightness, which in turn produces plenty of detail without either light myself up like a beacon, or destroying my own nightvision.

    As Terry says, that's about as good as it gets resolution-wise unless you want to spend a LOT more money, or get fairly involved in building up from components. I looked at 1080HD screens for example, and whilst you can get them at 5", they need an HDMI input to display the resolution, and start at about £130!
     
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    Thanks for the input all!
    As i understand it a 700TVL camera will output roughly equivalent to
    976 x 582
    According to this site - http://www.elinetechnology.com/definition/712502-tvl-tv-lines
    So a 800x480 screen is both not high enough resolution and the wrong aspect (or am i not getting it, new to the analog resolution thing)?
    What we really need is a 1024x768 (old school XGA in computer monitor terms, as i work in IT) screen...
    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_display_resolution#SXGAminus
    or something similar or better but still in 4:3.
    Has anyone seen one in this kind of res please?
    I'm not too fussed about physical size now (42inch is right out though :)) - I'm kinda feeling i want the best possible picture, but preferably without having to do this analog to digital (eg. HDMI) conversion.
     
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    If you want to achieve that resolution, then have a look here, http://www.adafruit.com/category/63
    There are some1280x800 screens there with composite input, but you are looking at $140 odd, and may well find you have tax to pay when delivered.

    By the time you have waited and paid up etc. you might be better off to cut your losses and go for one of the Lilliput 5" or 7" monitors designed to sit on top of a DSLR camera. They offer true HD 1080 screens, with many inputs including composite. They become a little bulky and button-covered though in comparison. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Professio...tor-For-Camera-Canon-5D-7D-1080-/251491295322

    800x480 is the price break-point as far as I can see. It represents perhaps the limit of amateur, tinkering use at a price that the market will stand. Then it's a leap up to the bottom rung of serious amateur/professional use and the costs associated with that.
     
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    I've looked at the spec of these field monitors before and there's quite a few different sellers offering them on ebay. They all suggest HD resolution but usually what they seem to mean is that they will take a HDMI input and show the output from a HD camera, ie 1920x1080. However on closer inspection it appears that they are displaying this on a screen which is only 800x480 pixels. The link you gave above is a little less clear but in the small print they show '800x480 up to 1920x1080' so I remain suspicious. Some of them onl have hdmi in as well so you need to be careful of that.
    My experience so far with Chinese pixels is disappointing, they seem to vanish somewhere between the advert and the product which drops through the letter box. I had another scan through the models offered on ebay and Lilliput is the most prolific brand but I couldn't see one which claimed native 1920x1080, most are significantly lower than that. I don't recall having seen a full hd screen in 5" size but I think they can be had in 7".
    This is one option if you can build it into a unit http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/7-1024-60...365?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item2c7d77cd4d. An ideal solution would be a smartphone full hd display but it would need an electronics specialist to build a screen driver that would accept a composite video input.
     
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    So how much difference would i see between the screen i have which is a 320x240 3.5 inch screen and a 800x480 5 inch screen. Trying to improve without going mad on price if i can.

    thanks guys
     
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    a larger picture
     
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    You dont say :rolleyes: sorry i should explain, quality of picture is what i was referring to.
     
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    The quality is a fair bit better, it's a worthwhile upgrade. It's worth checking that they do send you the high resolution version and not a lower res one.
     
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    ive not seen any diffrence in quality between the 3.5inch and the 5inch screen i have, only that the picture on the 5inch is larger, both were cheap off ebay, unless you spend over £100 then thats as good as it gets
     
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    Thanks for all the info all of you - think I'm going to go 5" 800x480 as recommended. I can always upgrade later if i want (and can afford and engineer it). :)
     
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    Ive just taken delivery of a 2.5 inch screen. Yes tiny but does 480 wide. Its so light and runs off a nokia li ion 5v battery. im going to give it a bash. Trying to get HI Def images would be nice but it wont improve your shot or your gun set up. I think the general feeling is 800 wide screens are fine and do the job well. Get one of these and if its not good enough im sure someone would buy it off you here.
     
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    If you want to you could try one of the viewfinder magnifiers sold on ebay for cameras with screens, they fit up to the eye and give about 2x magnification - would also cut down any screen glare on your face.
     
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    I don't think you can beat the E700 from Sure24, you can find cheaper but won't be as good.
    When you get the screen could you do a pixel count, if it's correct then you will have a bargain but it may be that the seller can't count - hope it's a goodun.
     

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