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Scottish Ticket Opinions/advice Please.

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Ksl7, Apr 22, 2019.

  1. Ksl7

    Ksl7 Member

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    So my situation is this:
    I live in Scotland so when the law changed my air rifle moved back in with my folks in England. It seems happy there & I visit when I can but I miss it. Plus the pigeons on the farm here are taking the p**s a bit!

    There's plenty folk say I might as well get a FAC & be done with, no more messing with your "pea shooter" . I can see logic there so I've been doing what research I can, much of it on here. I'm looking for opinions & advice on my thoughts before I actually apply for anything.
    Most of what I want to use it for will be pest control in & around farm buildings. If I go FAC then it looks like I've two options:
    1, it looks cheap enough to get a .22 rimfire but it'll be a bit over-powered & I'd still want the air rifle & that means I'd still need the Air Weapon License too, right?
    2, go for a FAC air rifle which would be low enough powered to be OK for use around the buildings. I quite fancied this but it seems the .22 HW97K in waiting isn't suited to being tweaked to anything worthwhile over the FAC threshold & would be much harder to sell. Indeed the talk seems to be for FAC air then PCP is the way to go but by the time I get all the charging gear etc its not looking so cheap for the level of step up I'd be getting.

    So I'm thinking I should just get the Scottish AWL for now & go with the gun I have available (and I do like it but I suppose I haven't had much to compare it to), or am I missing a trick?
    I have read that adding a shotgun ticket to a FAC application is only a few extra quid, does a similar principle apply to the Scottish AWL?
    Going for my SGC isn't totally out the question but it's not something I've thought about much.
    If I go for the AWL & later go for FAC/SGC is it easy enough to take advantage of renewing them together?

    Thanks for your thoughts.
     
  2. jesim1

    jesim1 Kit bitch to the Stars

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    If I were in your position and didn't feel the need for a shotgun or rimfire before, then I'd have to wonder why I needed one now:rolleyes:, particularly as you have mentioned damage to buildings which you don't have to worry about with your existing gun and you don't really feel the need to spend more?

    I'd 100% get the AWL for now, it's relatively quick, cheap and you don't have to start swapping guns or getting any other equipment - job done. :thumb:

    If you then want to go for a bit more poke I'd still forget the rimfire based on what you have said, it's more expensive for bullets and can do more damage, definitely not for use around building or equipment, but a high powered air gun could be just the item you need? Especially as you can get variable power versions like the electronic Daystates which you can turn up and down with a few trigger squeezes, these could give you several power levels so you can pick the best one for your needs all in one gun:rolleyes:.

    James
     
  3. 80yarder

    80yarder Engaging Member

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    If you are applying for or already hold an FAC or SGC you can add an airgun licence for £5, but now you do need the AWL as the other certificates do not cover you.

    https://www.scotland.police.uk/abou...rms/air-weapon-licensing/application-process/

    Good luck

    Alan
     
  4. RichieRich

    RichieRich Ping!

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    I would go for the AWL. If you are shooting Pigeons in farm buildings, Sub-12fpe air rifle is all you will need. If you go FAC, your projectile will either over-penetrate, or cause building damage if you miss.
     
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    talyllyn Posting Addict

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    It states "Dangerous within 1 mile" for good reason on 22LR cartridge boxes.
     
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    RichieRich Ping!

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    I was referring to FAC air
     
  7. Ksl7

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    Thanks for the reply, my thoughts fairly much confirmed.
    I mabye could have been clearer on a couple of things, there's a couple of hundred acres of farm to look after besides the pests around the buildings & been a few occasions when someone with FAC has come in to deal with a problem. Also my folk's farm where my dad has a shotgun & as is knocking on in years someone will take that role over someday. I also had a go at clays a while back, did OK & quite enjoyed it but there's no time right now to be involved much in that.
    I hadnt seriously thought about going FAC until now when I'm going to have to apply for something to use the air rifle.
    Using the sub 12lbft one already available was always the main thing so for now I'll likely go AWL.
     
  8. Teuchter Boy

    Teuchter Boy Busy Member

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    I am based in Scotland and went fac air and awl when the awl was introduced as wasn't that much more burdensome other than the doctors report. If you have the land you may as well apply for fac air as most fac guns have adjustable power so can safely be used around barns then out in the field. Fac air just makes hunting easier in my opinion, a little more range and much better trajectory helps no end. I think it is also worth getting a sgc if you are going fac as a cheeky wee 410 can be a great tool around a farm and in the fields.
     
  9. Ksl7

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    Thanks for that Teuchter Boy, that's kinda the road I thought might be a viable alternative to jus getting AWL.
    I'd need a proper gun cabinet but I have been keeping an eye out for a used one anyway as it'd be better to store the air rifle in.
    How do the costs stack up for the route you've taken? No worries if you'd rather not say!
     
  10. Teuchter Boy

    Teuchter Boy Busy Member

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    I paid £200 for a moderated single shot 410 which is a simple but fun shotgun. The fac airguns were also initially quite cheap as bought an old rapid seven for £350. For no other reason than wanting shiny new toys I have since spent a bit more on a 22 Wolverine R at £1500 and 25 fx Streamline at £780. Doesn't have to be that expensive, I just liked the guns and went for it. You can pick up a decent fac 22 airgun for £500 plus change. Goes without saying but my wife can never find out
     
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  11. Ksl7

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    Thanks for that, not daft money but mabye something for the future. The Hw97k is paid for, the AWL is going to be all I need to pay for right now to be back shooting.
    That's if I'm going to be allowed to deal with the pigeons.....

    Does your missus declare what she spends on shoes & clothes?!
    My significant other is also the farmer from whom I need permission to shoot on the farm!
     
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