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Scottish Independence referendum

Discussion in 'Get it off your chest' started by Jim of Cov, May 10, 2014.

  1. Jim of Cov

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    It came up briefly on another thread, so I thought it might be interesting to gauge opinion. My view is that a few Scots shouldn't be allowed to decide to future of my country for me. We were all born (or naturalised) into the UK, we all inherited the status quo, I.e. one kingdom with its constituent parts. Now how can the future make up of that entire country be decided by one part of it? What if it comes down to a few votes? A few dozen people deciding for the other 70 million? Because Scottish independence would effectively abolish the UK. The whole of the UK should have a vote on this either before or after the Scots vote. We should have to have had a majority supporting the referendum, or afterwards, a majority supporting the results of the referendum, if its a yes vote.


    (P.S. When do the English get a vote on independence?)
     
  2. Ichabod Armacost

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    That is a very interesting point of view, and I think it has a fair degree of validity. The thing that scares me to death about the whole Scottish independence thing is the possibility of a yes vote dooming England to a permanent tory government:eek:!!!!!!
     
  3. Kenbarcon

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    If your scared of that happening then use your VOTE.
     
  4. Big Jim

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    The few Scottish people you are quoting is around 5.2 million
    The UK is also made up of four countries and is not a country in its own right.
    I am against Scottish independence but if Scotland were to vote yes that's Scotland's own choice to leave the union no other country in the union has any right to tell them that they can't do it. It would be the same if England, Wales or Northern Ireland decided they no longer wanted to be in the UK.
    The English, Welsh and the Northern Irish will not have a vote because the Scottish are voting to leave the UK.
     
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    Hmmmmmm...........whiskey will drop to 30p a pint.... free of the tax of westminster
     
  6. Ichabod Armacost

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    In your dreams.....................and mine!:)
     
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    :popkorn::popkorn::popkorn: Here we go... Don't want a ban today so I'll keep my opinions to myself on this, as it's beer o'clock. I've a feeling this is gonna get heated. :rolleyes:
     
  8. scoop

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    Lets not get into any arguments for the trolls to wind everyone up
    On a lighter note ( excuse the punn ) the new scottish currency has been decided
    View attachment 95934
     
  9. Mart61

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    Truth be told I really don't give a damn either way. Is that wrong? :D
     
  10. jay5488

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    Scotland has a special place in my heart, I've had some wonderful times up there as a young lad!! We used to base our holidays for years just outside fort William on the banks of loch eil, I think it was corpach???
    As I said previously, I just hope that such a wonderful part of the world remains as great as it always has been and wish luck in the times ahead!!
    Whatever happens it will still be a fantastic place with some really entertaining locals!!
     
  11. reaper6

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    Will all Scots living here in gods own country be classed as immigrants:rolleyes:
     
  12. scoop

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    When i stayed in herts i was often called a foreigner but then again no one could understand me
     
  13. ambriel

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    I will be voting in the Independence Referendum on 18 September and I will be voting YES because I believe that the best people to decide what happens in Scotland are the people that live here, not a few hundred (largely rich/posh) people hundreds of miles away who have a very poor understanding of the things that matter to people up here.
     
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    I do have one hope though - whichever way the vote goes I hope the pros and antis just shut the hell up and accept the result rather than spend the next decade or two p*****g and moaning about it.
     
  15. Egg

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    Quite a few people up this way believe the exact same thing - a non-representative government (certainly non-representative of the Scottish populace who have voted in precisely zero Conservative MP's consistently for years) that's been voted in by one part of the partnership - England - that make decisions affecting the whole of Scotland as well as the rest of the UK.

    Whether people outside of Scotland feel the Scots should or shouldn't be allowed to determine their own future (for good or bad) is neither here nor there: the promise was that if the SNP were voted in as the majority party in the Scottish Parliament then a referendum was to go ahead re independence: Yes/No? It was a promise made by a Westminster government so now we have the choice.

    I'm half tempted to vote yes just to get rid of Salmond and the rest of his amatuer gang in order to shut the one-trick-pony that is the SNP up once and for all. Even a no vote will shut them up so it's all good as far as I'm concerned - Scotland back to being a socialist paradise again :D

    Truth be told I'm still undecided - part of me has no issues whatsoever with the downstairs neighbours. OK, they can be a bit of a noisy bunch at times but not to the extent I want to move away from them forever more. Then there's the other part of me that says "You know something? Why not? Let's have a bash at this independence thing!". Jury's still out, it all depends how many more ill-informed opinions I read (from various sources) from the less savvy of the downstairs neighbours because, and I have to be honest here, some of the neighbours are right fecking t***s.
     
  16. Honest Bob

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    I love Scotland, and the people. It would be a sad day for me, if Scotland was to no longer be part of the UK, but I do think they should have the choice. No matter what happens, I wish the Scottish people all the best for the future. Atb, Bob. PS. Given the choice, NW Scotland, or Leeds, give me Scotland any day.
     
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    I would adjust that to read: "not a few hundred (largely rich/posh) people hundreds of miles away who have a very poor understanding of the things that matter to people ANYWHERE"
     
  18. Egg

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    In your eyes they probably already are :p
     
  19. Honest Bob

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    Well said. Atb, Bob.
     
  20. Wynne G Oldman

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    All that I can say is that if Scotland and the rest of the UK are divided, we would both be worse off without each other.
     

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