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Scopes & Night Vision For A Newbie

Discussion in 'Night Vision Optics' started by Titch, May 2, 2019.

  1. Titch

    Titch Member

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    Hi Folks,
    OK, so I suffer in that I cannot use my right eye on a scope, reason being, it's rubbish/no good/....**! So, I use my left eye..right handed and almost leaning over the gun to get the left eye in situ..but it's pretty useless focusing and hard work too.. on my 12 Gauge not so bad as we have the spread..and yes, I do get quite a few clays down.

    So, two options I believe..firstly, as I'm ratting mainly, so steady & comfortable, I have used on the Black Kat a night vision set up with a small lcd screen..absolutely perfect, and I mean, unbelievably perfect. So where do I source a quality set up like that folks, all advice will be appreciated.
    The second option I guess, as an alternative for daylight shooting, is a large eyepiece for the scope? again, I'd appreciate advice on this too, but in reality, I'm thinking lcd screen & infra red, that I can use day and night.
    You seem a pretty clever lot, would you educate me please?
    Thank You,
    Titch
     
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    genisis22 Engaging Member

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    sounds like something going around........... mines the same , so I taught myself to shoot lefty quite simple really just some practice.... or buy a screened night vision that will solve your problem as you said,, near eye jobbies such as photon pard s07/08 etc need near perfect eye position so tricky as you are, do not dismiss the humble sony camcorder with night shot, some are really good with right ir
     
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    Any of the cheap NV add ons work in daylight. I always check my zero at the range in daytime on the screen and it's far more relaxed than looking directly though the scope.

    Although my eyes aren't totally shot I find it difficult to shoot wearing my specs so have adjusted to the screen well.
     
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  4. themadspread

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    go onto the optics bit and you,ll find a video by aq member terry 1001.i have one and have had it over 4yrs its brilliant and has been used to shoot 15k rats in its time and hundreds of bunnies
     
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  5. PW1

    PW1 Shooting the breeze.

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    If you need to use a screen then a self build is probably the way to go, although a Pard nv007 with your mobile as the screen will do fine, although more expensive than a self build even using the best camera.

    Regards
    Peter
     
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    Hi Folks,
    well, I'll be honest, I'm just not used to the lingo as yet..
    Should I take a picture and (try) loading it on here of the set up I've used?
    I am thinking of having this two shot Webley Raider, so intend setting that up with a screen & UV (night vision?) lamp etc.
    From my workshop I can set up on bipod and keep going back to it, or, look at the screen.I'm hidden from Mr Rat so will work well.
    I'll try and find this video kindly suggested by 'themadspread'..
    Although I use computers in my work all day, it's specific 'stuff' and I'm old fashioned in my ways, so struggling a bit with the lingo here sorry.
    When you say 'optics' bit.. is that the bit I'm writing in now?
    Thanks chaps,
    Titch
     
  7. Jonkem

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    Click this link and it'll show you a cheap type of kit that works. Lots of vendors sell them at round about £100 or you can find instructions to build your own.

     
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    Again my Many Thanks guys...you know when you feel stupid..when the aforementioned self build kit is just four spaces above my post...
    So thanks again...most helpful it is. Also too, thanks to Jonkem as this too may be the way to go to get started..
    Top Bananas!!
    Titch
     
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  9. Jonkem

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    If you were nearer you'd be welcome to come and look through mine.

    Only thing to add from me is that there's no point buying an expensive scope with too high magnification and bells and whistles. The max i ever use is 10X.
    Reliability is more important than price or spec when using NV, setting up isn't always straightforward and obvious so don't hesitate to ask the forum if you're struggling with camera focus or similar.
     
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  10. terry1001

    terry1001 Major Poster

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    As you mainly need this type of kit to address a sight problem there are some things that may be more important to you than to those who simply wish to shoot in the dark. I have built something like this for a friend with sight issues and it is a good solution in some cases.
    Of course the kit needs to be simple to use so I would highly reccommend a side focus scope, focussing is slightly more important than if you weren't using an add on and side focus is by far the easiest way of doing this.
    You do need to get the best picture possible, it won'r get near the view through a decent scope but it will be perfectly adequate for use with an air rifle. To achieve this you need a good camera and a high resolution monitor, in fact monitors with a higher resolution than 800x480 are prohibitively expensive so this should be considered as a reasonable compromise and a camera with similar resolution will work well. With cameras you'll get better performance (especially at night) with larger sensor size and fewer pixels - 800x480 is a good compromise for this as well.
    You will find that many of the sellers, especially on ebay and amazon etc, are economical with the truth and many of their claims are ridiculous, you will often see the same absurd specification from many sellers which is just copied and pasted from somewhere else.
    If you wanted to shoot out to greater range then you might have to reconsider the spec of components but those listed in my easy night vision build video will work very well for air rifle use even for daylight use.
     
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    Terry, I thank you for all your words and take good notice. I appreciate all this and others input obviously..I shall digest all. The video is excellent too.
    Many Thanks,
    Titch
     
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    One other advantage of the Pard option is you can use it during the day as well and totally avoid the neck stretching.
     
  13. Titch

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    Well that's it yes, day or night.. as you say without hanging my head, the screen idea is perfect!
     
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    NV UK seem pretty decent the one i looked thro was good.
     
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    Titch sent an reply back to your email bud
     
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    i dont know if what your after? but as someone pulled out i have got a new nv008
    which comes with a 12 month warranty but best be quick as it will not be here for long
     
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    Top Man! thank you...
     
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    Again,
    Thanks Bighunter, all received!
    Top Banana!!
    Titch
     
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    Nice one mate :up:
     
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    Nice review of the kit, any idea of the origin of the screen mount?.
    Searched internet, cannot find anything like it.
     

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