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Scopeless NV

Discussion in 'Night Vision Optics and Illumination' started by reaper1064, Jun 16, 2014.

  1. reaper1064

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    Built this after seeing one on the NV forum. Need to sort the screen and wiring to a neater position but it will do for now. Taken it out the last couple of nights for a quick session and managed 6 rabbits, 2 the first night and 4 last night. Beauty of this rig is that it equally capable day or night, plus because there is no scope you need less or on a brighter night no illumination.
     
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    What a super looking NV , sooo jealous and want one , Happy shooting.
     
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    Nice mate .i don't mean to sound stupid but how do you get the cross hair up and aim if there no scope
     
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    Hi mate you use the privacy zones on the camera to generate the cross hair and then shim it out to the POI. With the camera I use you can even make mil dots.
     
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    Nice mate what camera is it
     
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    Hi wizard it's the EJ230 from Sure 24 with the IR filter removed by them.
     
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    Thank you
     
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    hello, i like this set up and you dont need a day scope, i am sure this is the next generation DIY n/v for forum techy chaps. good luck
     
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    This is a nice build. There is a fair bit of interest in this type of sight and reaper1064 has put together a very useful one. The camera he has used is one of the best out there and they will give a clear picture even when it's too dark to see with the naked eye and you don't need any ir illumination until there's no ambient light or moonlight available.
    I've built a couple of slightly different scopeless sights and I now have a big pile of parts on my bench which are waiting for me to build up sufficient enthusiasm to make a start on constructing some more.
    There are several options for viewing the image, reaper1064 has gone for the screen which I like as it does offer a good deal of flexibility with the rifle position as you can swivel the screen to a comfortable viewing position and rest the rifle on your knees or round a corner if you prefer - you don't have to have your head in line behind the scope. You can also use video goggles, which I'm not sure about, or a small lcd or oled viewfinder screen (eg a camcorder eyepiece) and view that as you would a conventional scope sight.
     
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    Hi guys,

    Sorry to appear dim BUT if there is no scope how do you zero for various distances? I'm sure I'm missing something obvious :)
     
  11. r10hunter

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    You can move the cross hair the same as you do on a scope. Just that you do it electronically with a little joy stick on the back of the camera.
    Cheers Andy
     
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    If your POI is a long way out then if you want you can shim out the camera in the mounts, then fine tune it by using the OSD. Bit fiddly to begin with but the results are well worth it.
     
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    Cameras such as the ej230 have a feature that allows you to draw lines on the image which you can form into a reticle (with a number of horizantal range marks as well if you want to). An alternative method is to use this http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Electroni...222?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item418232044e
    This device gives you a choice of a number of pre=programmed reticles and also has a simple zeroing function. It goes in the circuit between the camera and the monitor. As reaper1064 has said it is best to shim or otherwise adjust the camera/lens to get close to a zero so that the reticle is more or less central in the image.
     
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    This is my ej230 setup. I am just using a 50mm lens. It seems to give the same mag as a four or five power scope.[​IMG]
    What sort of magnification does your lens give ??
    Cheers Andy
     
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    Hi mate probably around 8x but that's a guess. Not much different to the mag on my Viper.
     
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    Thank you for the info' :)
     

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