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Scope zero trouble

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by RyRy, May 7, 2014.

  1. RyRy

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    So I've swapped out my Hawke Sport HD 3-9x40 for a Hawke Nite-Eye 3-12x50 AO IR on my HW99s

    Whilst I'm still waiting for my BASC insurance to come through I'm stuck to just plinking in the garden. Unfortunately my "range" at which I can shoot in an area of the garden is just under 15 yards. I'm having trouble zeroing the scope in at this distance and currently have to have it set at 3x mag with the AO on 15 yards with the elevation set as high as it can possibly go. However the pellets are hitting exactly one mil dot below the centre of the crosshairs. Will this correct itself once I zero the scope at a longer distance?

    Many thanks

    Ryan

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    The zero will definetly need to be changed once you get to a longer range but i would still be a little concerned if you are running out of adjustment already.
    I found that if i zero at 30yds i am also pretty much on zero at 15yds as well.
    Daft question but are the mounts actually in/on the scope rail correctly?
    I have put a scope on before where the front mount was in correctly but the back one wasn't.
    I would take the whole thing off and start again.
     
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    Yeah exactly that's what I'm worried about. The adjustment is as high as it will go. Should I try setting the scope further back or forward or anything?
     
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    Little off topic but are you not struggling with a 50mm objective on a hw99s with low comb? Ive got a 40mm objective on medium mounts at the minute and am only just getting away with it. I think i need a low mount and a 32mm lens or smaller
     
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    Had to fit high mounts. Do you think that's what the problem could be?
     
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    Not sure if it would be the problem but I think a very low comb and high mounts are not going to help. Unless you have a huge head, it cant be comftable and a consistant head possition lol
     
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    I do have quite a big head to be fair hahahaha
     
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    This is the position it's sat at at the moment [​IMG]
     
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    Maybe its an optical illusion but the front mount doesnt look vertical to me?
     
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    Optical illusion I think mate [​IMG][​IMG]
     
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    Looking at the top picture of the two you just put up it looks like the arrestor pin is in the front mount?
    Again maybe an illusion?
    I still think one mount isnt seated properly on the scope rail.
     
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    Optical illusion again haha. It's sitting at the back in the scope stop. My main worry if it's none of the above is that at a greater distance the drop off is going to increase
     
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    I would still look at the mounts myself.
    It can look they are in the rail correctly even if it isnt.
    Do the mounts have that tape/grip stuff in them?
    That stuff can be quite thick and could genuinely be not helping.
    Personally I would just take it out altogether.
     
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    Scope position is a personal thing, it depends on your size and build, eyesight etc etc. To me your scope looks to be too far back but that's probably due to the height.
    At the moment, if you're only shooting for fun, it doesn't really matter where the point of impact is as you can carry on shooting for groups etc as long as you know where to aim. It seems likely that there is an issue with your mounts, it's worth checking that they are a pair and are identical. I suggest you remove the scope from the mounts and the mounts from the rifle, make a note of where the mounts sit. Replace the lower halves of the mounts making sure that they go back properly and sit nicely in the dovetails and are clamped up firmly and appear to line up. You can then drop the scope in and put the top halves of the mounts back on, leaving them just loose enough so that you can rotate the scope and set the reticle correctly. Clamp up the mounts evenly once you're sure everything is in place.
    Centre the adjustments on the scope and try shooting, hopefully it will be somewhere near right.
    If you're shooting a .22 then if you get about 0.5" high at 15 yards you should be fairly close to a 30 yard zero.
     
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    The mounts are brand new and came in the post today. I've just taken the rear sight off and move the scope and mounds forwards and totally re set them. Spirit level shows it's 100% level. [​IMG]
     
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    I'm not sure whether I catch your drift there on the last part terry. Are you referring to the pellet going .5" high or the crosshairs?

    Many thanks

    Ryan
     
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    With a .22 i usualy start my zero at 10 yards which usualy isnt far off a 30yard zero aswell.
    I recommend putting a shim or 2 shims in the rear scope mount.

    My personal opinion for a HW99 especialy in .22 would be a 4x32 or 6x40 non AO scope with standard basic milldot using the lowest mounts you can use, the stock cheek peice is designed for open sights so low, small scope and low mounts will mean you can get a decent cheek weld i.e the bottom of your zygomatic bone snug on the cheek peice.
    Another bonus of a small light wieght scope low down is the HW99 will keep its balance.
     
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    18 posts and no ones suggested shimming the scope on the rear mount yet!?:eek:

    Thats the first thing you do if you run out of adjustment.;)
     
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    2 minutes to late he he:D
     

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