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Scopes Scope that suit your eye perform better than they should?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by tomsteebs, Mar 31, 2014.

  1. tomsteebs

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    Hi,

    I just took order of a 4x40 ao mountmaster scope. Now I know that they suit me these scopes, but I still wasn't expecting much.

    After comparing side by side at dusk with a £300 Nikon (9x the price) on similar settings, I can't see a difference in the glass quality! Whether in bright day a difference will become obvious I don't know.

    So my question is, if a scope suites you, do you think it can actually give performance of higher end scopes?

    I'm actually considering saving some money and swapping some of more expensive scopes for mountmasters!

    Cheers
    Tom
     
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    Good idea tom, i'll swap you a lovely 3-9 mountmaster for your unnecessary bushy legend;)
     
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    A mate of mine does this all the time - he shoots with an inexpensive scope and says he can't tell any difference looking through my Prostaff and Legend Ultra HD's. He's even said the same about Meopta and S&B, when I used to own them :rolleyes:

    I came to the conclusion that he's either pulling my leg or that he's giving nothing more than a cursory glance through each scope.

    Whatever works is good.

    I can't shoot for as long in woodland at dusk with some makes and models of scope so I pick the ones that fit my brief better than others.

    Just because they suit me doesn't mean they will suit everyone so this isn't really about right and wrong.

    If it was though, I'd be right and you, well, wouldn't be...

    ;)

    :D

    You can get good results with inexpensive kit but I've noticed some massive variables. I looked through 4 examples of the 6x40 AO Mountmaster scope a couple of years back at my local RFD. It was like looking through 4 completely different models !

    One was surprisingly good and I bought it for a ratting rig which it was great on.

    The other three were variations on awful.

    You can get good and bad examples of any product from any manufacturer.

    Personally I'd take your £300 Nikon into the woods at dusk every time, absolutely confident that I'll be head shooting pigeons long after you can't even see the pigeon through your Mountmaster...

    Some people just gel with certain products and everyone's eyes are different.

    Some of Hawke's low to mid range scopes are surprisingly good. Most of their 'high end' stuff is horribly overpriced and functionally flawed. Same with every example of MTC scopes that I've tried, including the one I bought mail order on the strength of all the glowing reports. It was rubbish, whiting out in various light conditions and no better in low light than a scope costing a fifth of its asking price. Maybe I bought a pup - who knows ?

    If you like it and it ticks your boxes, be happy.

    Like I say though, I'd be happily head shooting pigeons long after you can't even see one with your Mountmaster :)
     
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    I have a cheap Leapers 3-9x40 and a more expensive Hawke Nite-Eye 6-24x50 scope and can't really tell the difference in low light performance or picture quality in all light conditions with them. What is impressive to me is the quality of the Hawke SR12 mildot reticule, but the mildot reticule of the Leapers is also well useable on my springer at the ranges I use it at. I don't think I'll be buying an expensive scope for my airguns, the Leapers comes into it's own with it's ability to go down to x3 magnification to spot quarry well past twilight, but the Hawke is good at x6 with it's bigger 50mm objective. Both have non-blooming illuminated reticules I use in the last throws of light on their lowest settings...:up:
     
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    It's colour definition and light gathering that makes the difference between cheap and expensive optics.
     
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    as well as contrast, better mechanical tolerances, improved accuracy retension, longevity...
     
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    Hmm, I do agree with you .177 as that's why I changed all my scopes from Hawke, mtc and nikko etc.... Over to Bushnell and Nikon (philippines & Japan)

    My only thought is maybe it's deceptive due to 40mm lenses and 4xmag, maybe on higher mags You'd see the difference, but then again that wouldnt matter, as i dont ever use more than 8x.
    Also they are boxing mountmasters differently now and also the ao ring is considerably smoother on this one, so whether they are having better qc I don't know....
    I'll compare it more so over the next few days, this Nikon in comparison is made for a minimum of 50yards factory standard so Maybe that effects it (it is reparallaxed to adjust to airgun ranges via sf)
    I'm getting rid of that scope anyway as I prefer the cheaper Nikon efr in every way :)

    I must admit, I'm yet to have a bad mountmaster out of about 6 I've owned.
     
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    I would stick with what you have as the newer mountmasters don't seem to have as good a glass as the older ones, I'm just as happy with the gamekings as with the mtcs at twice the price.
     
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    I think this is a prime example, with gamekings, they were great sub 40yards, but after that I couldn't focus sharply like with other scopes, but mountmaster perform better than gameking, with me, imo
     
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