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Scope Help

Discussion in 'Technical' started by Hornetlm42, Dec 4, 2019 at 6:59 PM.

  1. Hornetlm42

    Hornetlm42 Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys total newbie to shooting so advice on scope magnification
    Been to local range and been advised the lads scope needs upgrading its a hawke vantage + 3x9x40.... I have a air max 30sf 6x24x50....
    And not a clue what to get...
    The lad wants to shot at the range and maybe looking to do some hft
    Thanks
     
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    TR158 Posting Addict

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    Hello mate and welcome

    I'd be interested to hear why they thought your lad's scope needs 'upgrading'. The Vantage scopes are far from poor for a beginner and although clearer glass and higher magnification 'might' and I stress 'might' be of benefit, it might be best for him to see how he gets on with his current setup and get a feel for what would suit him better a little further down the line once he's got into the swing of it.

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  3. Hornetlm42

    Hornetlm42 Well-Known Member

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    @TR158 thanks for that... I think they wanted to buy some stuff of them.. As also they said to sell my hw100 and his s200 and buy there 2 air arms s400 as they are better guns... Its just bloody hard to get the right info
    Thanks again for your advise
     
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  4. Brooksy

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    There's nothing wrong with his scope, after all, he's probably got better eyesight than the guy behind the counter. If he can hit targets with what he is accustomed to, why risk changing? He may not get on with a new scope, specially a higher magnification, and that will kerb his interest for good.
    As for the air rifles, if you've got a good barrel and consistency in the delivery of the air pulse, nothing is going to be better. A fifty year old spring rifle will hit the same as a brand new top of the range Steyr or Daystate in the right hands.
    Keep your money where it is until you're sure you want to change.
     
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    rich79 Lovin the smell of cordite in the morning

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    Nothing wrong with any of those rifles, they're all performers in the right hands.
    Nothing wrong with a 3-9x40 either, if he's happy with the clarity & reticle then why change? If you go too high you're magnifying your wobble too.
     
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  6. Hornetlm42

    Hornetlm42 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks guys.... It was just doing my head in..... Will keep what we have and have a play
     
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    You're welcome buddy. You have two decent rifles there and if they're accurate and bring you pleasure in use then there's no point in changing either the rifles or the scopes until you fancy a change

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    When you're ready, try somebody elses gear, but don't succumb to sales pressure.
     
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    timmytree Very Active

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    No doubt they were prepared to do you a deal as well?
    An HW100 with a good barrel and an S200 will hold their own with most rifles so ignore that. If your lad wants to do HFT he doesn't need a high mag, big lens scope anyway so personally I'd say they are talking out of their arses.
     
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    Fusty Fieldcrafter Busy Member

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    Definitely. They're talking Bull. Nothing wrong with the kit you have :thumb:
    Only change it when you want to.
     
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    Fusty Fieldcrafter Busy Member

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    Just to add.... I think it's pretty off that people at the range have tried to hoodwink you like this. We're they the people running the range or just some guys who happened to be there?
     
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  12. Hornetlm42

    Hornetlm42 Well-Known Member

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    Hi guys thanks again.... And it was just a couple of guys at the range... As they new we were novices
     
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    Lev Levvin Pro Poster

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    I also changed to ultra high magnification enormous scopes because ‘that’s what everyone else does’

    big mistake

    I found I preferred the lower mag scopes and even now with my higher-quality scopes I still keep them on x10 mag 99% of the time
     
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  14. Fusty Fieldcrafter

    Fusty Fieldcrafter Busy Member

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    Knobs. :)
     
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    mikeyhall1 2018 Forum Nice Guy - Pepe Le Pew

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    I want to press like on all the above...and I will straight after.
    What I really admire about the fine people in this forum....Is the helpfulness that just seems to be in abundance.
    I bet if you want to know something about equipment or try a different of set up...you'd find someone who could help here...without trying to sell something to you..and definitely not telling you your setup is worthless..
    Remember... most of the time, The gun is only as good as the shooter... and not the other way around!

    I've seen guys with the best of the best equipment...set ups running into the thousands who can't shoot for s**t... and the old boy with a springer and a scope that looks like it might of been around since WWII, hitting his target every time.

    Hats off to the helpful guys!!:thumb:
     
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  17. Halinfax

    Halinfax Full time tinkerer....

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    TR... I agree 2 good rifles... My advise is to practice practice then practice some more with what you have.... Learn to use the tools you have and NOT the tools that somebody else thinks you should have.
     
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    Hornetlm42 Well-Known Member

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    Thanks again guys for all the help
     
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    Find the pellets, you shoot best with and shoot them until your eyes hurt..I love plinking, it's a great way to improve your skills..and your confidence
    Consistency and confidence...makes a good shooter.
     
  20. TR158

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    Knobices

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