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Scope glare (off silencer in daylight)

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by Davy-Kelly, May 30, 2014.

  1. Davy-Kelly

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    So I have had my HW100 for a week or so now and have not been too pleased with the scope I have on it (Falcon FFP) as it was "whiting out" a lot.

    I've realised that it's the silencer causing glare in the scope. The bottom of the objective lens is pretty much level (perhaps slightly lower) than the top of the silencer.

    Now, my question is about how to solve this, do I...
    1 put some form of cover on the silencer
    2 raise the height of the scope
    3 other (please expand)

    Any help would be greatly appreciated.

    Cheers, Davy
     
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    i have a falcon menace and get the same problem occasionally. mounted on my daystate Mk4 the end of the scope is nowhere near the silencer are you sure its glare off the silencer / barrel , my mk 4 barrel has a mat non reflective finish and the mod is not a shiny finish. the scope has a medium sunshade on. it also comes with a longer sunshade i might try that to see if it resolves the problem,

    i was also shooting my HW100 at same target at same time and did not get white out with the hawrke airmax sf30 i have fitted, the falcon does seem to suffer with white out in sunny conditions
     
  3. Davy-Kelly

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    Thanks Dave, no I'm not sure but I am struggling to find out what the problem is and thought that this may be it. I have the shade on it already (not sure if it's the linger version or not though) I may try lining the inside of the shade with black felt or something similar to see if that helps.
     
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    cammo tape on the silencer, the textile stuff,not vinyl. give it ago
     
  5. Stevie Darling

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    I've got some Matt 3m carbon fiber vinyl, will take the glair off and look good at the same time:)

    If you want some give me a shout:)
     
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    Do you know what Steve, I've come to the conclusion that your a very nice man as I'm always seeing you offering to help fellow forumers........well done mate :claping:
     
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    Mmmm, wondering what you thought before you came to your conclusion:D:D
     
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    Just had a look at both the short and long shades on my falcon, the insides of the shades seem shiny when held up to a light bulb i have a feeling that might be the problem. may be worth trying without the sun shade or trying to matt the inside of the sunshade some how ?
     
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    I had the same thing with my hawke sunshade, I managed to somehow attach It to a drill, then spun it while holding a scotchbrite gently against the inside of the shade,

    Just enough to take the sheen off the anodizing down to matt black, wasn't for spraying the inside, but the scotchbrite did the trick:)
     
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    Thanks for the ideas guys think this is the cause of the problem. i will give this ago as the whiteout is a problem on the scope, but i love the B20 reticule on this scope, not to fine, not to thick, with extended, numbered mill dots
     
  12. Davy-Kelly

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    Thanks Stevie that's really generous of you, I'm not a huge fan of the camo'd silencers but a carbon fibre one sounds nice :) I'm going to try de-shining the inside of the sunshade first to see if that makes a difference, if it doesn't some of your tape would be greatly appreciated!
     
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    Best option IMO is the camo material tape, its like Velcro with no glue or sticky residue so you can put it on and take it of just as easy as it went on!
    It also makes great for protecting the rifle from scuffs or scapes and its cheap :)
     
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    l had the same glare off of my hw mod through an mtc mamba and then off the lighter patches of the camo tape l'd put on to cure it. My scope is seated as low as it can go (which l like) and l think this is part of the problem. l resolved it with a black perminant marker pen on the brighter patches of tape. Sorted ;)
     
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    I wonder if thats the case when sitting around the dinner table with him ? as knowing Steve likes his munch, I can seeing him saying.

    " is you not wanting that, aye I thought not " LOL
     
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    View attachment 97365 My answer to the problem. A bit of non-shiny cardboard bent to the right circumference and secured with gaffer tape. Finished with the aforementioned self-stick camo tape.

    Cost? Nowt, I had everything laying around the workshop! :D
     
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    If the offers still open, I'd love a bit of this, I'm still having problems with glare although only at higher magnifications. Cheers, Davy
     
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    Although it might be reflection causing the whiteout, the only times I have experienced it is from having the wrong head position. Some scopes are very head sensitive ( which is a good thing because if it is not whiting out, your head/eye is in the correct position).
    I have a range of Burris scopes, one of them, the 3-9x32 Sako Quad I sold to a guy recently. He returned it because he could not get on with it due to the sensitivity of head position causing loss of focus. The same scope won the North West HFT comps.
    Dave
     
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    Yeah it's very sensitive to head position, on 25x there must be around 2mm play and even then there's a slight white to the top and bottom of the view. Other than that it's an excellent scope. When I take off the silencer it is far far better so I know that is the main problem.
     
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    Loads better!! Thanks Stevie76.

    I've wrapped the silencer and also made an extended sun shield. Photos to follow...
     

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