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Advice scope for hunting

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by BIG HITTER, Mar 24, 2014.

  1. BIG HITTER

    BIG HITTER Engaging Member

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    [h=4]Hi guys just doing a bit of shopping around for a new scope for sub 12 lb air rifle been looking at the three listed below will be used for mainly hunting also been offered a second hand but as new condition Bushnell Legend Ultra HD 4.5-14x44 your thoughts on scopes mentioned would be appreciated or anything else that's worth considering or your prefered scope[/h][h=4]MTC Viper Connect 3-12x32[/h][h=4]MTC Viper 3-12x44 IR[/h][h=4]Hawke Sidewinder 30 IR Tactical 10x42[/h]
    cheers graham
     
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    I would also consider the mamba lite 4-16x44
     
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    Out of those listed the Bushnell would be my choice,depends what it is going on.Take a look at Mamba lites & Nikon EFR 3-9 x40 AO
     
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    How are you with reticles? I have a viper with the scb ret and it looks very busy in there.I much prefer a very fine mildot style ret,it takes me a few seconds to find out whats going on it the mtc,ok for targets,but with a varying background to focus on as well in hunting I do find the target moves sometimes.The side focus is a lot easier than fiddling about with the objective lens at arms length though and I am on the lookout for a SF mildot myself.
    andy.
     
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    hi andy i've always used mildot in the past perhaps i should stick with them has you say looks very busy in there cheers
     
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    The bushnell would be a good scope out of those as they have a nice bit of glass in them,the only thing I would say is not to go too big with the mag so as not to put unnecessary weight on rifle.I like side focus so I would tend to steer towards a scope with it. mtc or hawke sidewinder would be my choice or even hawke varmint sf on the cheaper side of things.
     
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    I really like the Connect but you need to look through one first, they are not everyone's cup of tea.
     
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    Light, compact, and excellent glass Nikon prostaff 3-9x40 BDC reticle. It is non AO scope but who needs AO for hunting.
     
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    go with the Bushnell mate. especially as your used to mil dots. there's a Bushnell legend for sale on here and they are a superb bit of glass! bargain at 140quid aswell.
     
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    Its not everyones cup of tea but I swear by my 1.5 x 5 x 20 whitetail, its a little gem, one will last you a life time,
     
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    perfect i bet for shooting in a wood block
     
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    What calibre gun is it going on, and what sort of ranges do you have in mind
     
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    i'm treating myself to the new daystate wolverine B type sub 12 lb in 177 looking for something to complement the air rifle
     
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    Its on my superten running FAC I call it my point an shoot no need for big scope pellet flys straight with higher power levels, I have different scopes from high mag to low but the little simmons suits my hunting probably not anygood for anything else.
     
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    ^^ This ^^

    The Bushnell Legend Ultra HD makes mincemeat of the others listed.

    Optically I think they're superior to the older Legends (I have both), they have a much thinner, crisper ret and I think the mil dots are a shade closer together on the 4.5-14x44 than on the old 5-15x40 model. I can take a picture against a target through both if you like, to give some comparison. The side focus is easier to tussle with (I leave mine set to 30 and the mag on 6x and never touch it ;) ) and it's pretty stunning to look through.

    Anything with Nikon Prostaff written on it will blow the others out of the water - the EFR can be 'dialled in' at known range or the BDC offers a useful set of aim points without getting crowded.

    Rets are becoming borderline unusable these days - Hawke's half mil dot is a mire and nothing but a bloody nuisance. It's more hindrance than help IMHO, but their MAP6 is very useable.

    Try and look through as many as you can before parting with any cash.

    Most folks buy on recommendation and then rave about what they bought into - it's easy to be impressed when you haven't viewed counterpart products under real world conditions, especially challenging light conditions.

    I was using an MTC Viper on the weekend (on someone else's gun) and they remarked without any prompting on how much clearer and crisper they found the smaller Prostaff on my gun when i handed it to them. I struggled with their scope compared to mine, but I didn't say as much :)

    The little Whitetail Classic is a gem of a scope but its ret is a shade thicker than on some scopes and it can struggle in crappy light - I gave my last one to a mate who has it on his .22LR and he absolutely loves it. I had one on an HW80 and another on an HW95 for years :)

    Of those you've listed I'd make a shortlist of one (Bushnell) and you should find a shop with stock and see what your eyes get along with before even considering any of the others.

    Personally I consider 10x42 to be extremely limiting, and I've yet to be impressed by anything with MTC written on it. I could own MTC scopes if I wanted to, but I do own Bushnell Legends (several), Nikon Prostaff (several), Vortex Diamondback and similar, which probably just goes to show something.

    Note; I am not having a pop at those who own MTC scopes or any other brand for that matter. Whatever works is good.

    The Bushnell might offer fewer aim points but, as an overall package, it has side focus, vastly superior optics, better low light performance, none of the flare and whiteout typical of most MTC scopes, and it's magnification range covers all the bases unless you intend doing FT.

    Just my opinion.

    Good luck no matter what you decide :D
     
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    My only dislike with both nikon and bushnell is long eye relief, but I only own Nikon and Bushnell so it's not a biggy. One thing that I actually dislike quite a bit with the Bushnell legends are the reticles are far too thick, my favourite scope I have had is the Nikon efr, simple high quality construction with a clear sharp reticle and great glass.
    Best reticle I've used is the Hawke x20 mildot.
     
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    thanks for all the comments :up: time for a look through a few good excuses to visit shop again :D
     

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