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Scope for HFT?

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by nheather, Mar 19, 2008.

  1. nheather

    nheather Well-Known Member

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    Almost certain that I will be taking up HFT. I have found a club that looks good and will be visiting them on Monday for a chat.

    I will need to buy equipment pretty soon and have been doing some research.

    At the moment my preferences and shopping list looks like

    .177
    Air Arms S400 - probably carbine but not sure of the pros and cons
    Silencer - probably later depending on what I think of the noise
    Filling bottle - probably 7L, 300bar
    Scope - absolutely no idea, bewildered by choice

    As far as scopes go, I know you are not allowed to adjust them once you start. I've read that most shoot around the 10x and because you are not allowed to do rangefinding that the Mil-Dot or multi-aim type reticules are best.

    But that's as far as I get.

    If I just pick one manufacturer (Hawke for example) I find the range bewildering and can't understand why there are so many different ones around the same price bracket - for example, the AirMax, Reflex and Sport HD ranges have very similar scopes within £10 of each other.

    I don't want to spend a lot of money but at the same time I don't want to buy something that I would want to upgrade after a few months.

    I'd appreciate any advice or guidance you could offer.

    I would also consider good used equipment. I've been following the 'For Sale' threads but as far as I can tell .177 S400s don't come up that often - is that correct?

    Cheers,

    Nigel
     
  2. EX Mod Cog

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    I've never done HFT so I'm not sure, however I can give you some suggestions if you want.

    The Hawke or BSA range are always good if you're on a budget.

    If you have lots of money then look at the more expensive makes.

    www.uttings.com

    ... that didn't really help did it?

    Good luck anyway.
     
  3. dom

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    A fixed mag scope is good for HFT, but isn't very flexible, a 3-12X would be useful for ratting, hunting, HFT and long range plinking, for example. There are a lot of mid range, mid price scopes out there, but go for a 40-44 you get more depth of field for HFT.
     
  4. nheather

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    Okay, some more questions.

    Hawke has three ranges, Sport HD, AirMax and Reflex, all of which have similar spec scopes for about the same money.

    Why is this? Why would you buy a Reflex rather than an AirMax? I can't see any difference and even the Hawke website and catalogue doesn't make it clear.

    Also, the Hawke website has a lot of reticule information and it says that MilDot is designed to work at 10x. But they sell quite a few 3-9x scopes with MilDot reticules. How can this be?

    How about these, any good?

    Hawke Reflex 3-10x44 MilDot (£74)
    Hawke Reflex 4-12x50 MilDot (£89)
    BSA Essential 4-12x44 MilDot (£80)

    These are in the price range I was thinking

    Would stretch to this if it was significantly better

    Hawke Varmint MkII 3-10x44 MilDot (£109)


    Cheers,

    Nigel
     
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    Of those just mentioned I'd go for the Hawke Reflex 4-12x50 MilDot; more power than the rest and it's a reasonable price considering.

    Hawke are a quality brand, you can't go wrong ;)
     
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    Air Arms S400 - probably carbine but not sure of the pros and cons
    Silencer -[Weihrauch or Logun are very good]
    Filling bottle - probably 7L, 300bar
    Scope - [All good advice so far, if you want to push the boat out a bit I am very happy with the Bushnell 10x40 for HFT but also have a Hawke 4-12 and it is an excellent scope... still hoping the scope fairy will bring me a MK4 leupold though!]
     
  7. nheather

    nheather Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for all the advice.

    The Hawke Reflex 4-12x50 doesn't have AO. Is this okay?

    I'm surprised that even on the Hawke website, for scopes that are non-AO it doesn't appear to give any indication at the factory set distance.

    Is this because there is an industry standard or would I need to find out some other way?

    Cheers,

    Nigel
     
  8. a1gunner

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    the max range will ge 50-55yds

    personaly i would go with a 6x mag and paralax set to 35yds

    i advise an AGS or hawke and get the best you can afford.
    hawke's SR range is exelent as it had an optical rangefinder (find out more on the website)

    you want to set the scope so that it is as clear as possible on all ranges so a lowe magnification will help.

    objective wize between 40mm and 50mm will be fine.

    dont to HFT myself but thats my advise, take it or leave it its just my opinion;)
     

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