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Scientist on TV proclaims that.........

Discussion in 'General chit chat' started by jantar, Jun 25, 2014.

  1. jantar

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    :confused: Watching TV this morning for the news updates I changed over onto BBC2 where scientist was teaching teenagers stiil at school how to speak publicly. During this 'lesson' he asked them to name some of mankinds greatest inventions. Emphasis on the word 'invention'. He then accepted various responses one of which was that man had invented fire! He accepted that answer and congratulated that person by stating 'that is good example, thank you'. My problem with that is quite simply that fire is not and never was an invention! It was a discovery by 'man' because fire has been there since the first day of the planet formation. Volcanoes 'fire breathing mountains as they were once described' have always been there and so cannot possibly have been an invention!
    The far bigger problem is that these programs are not live but are edited prior to broadcast and so are seen and edited by many others prior to that time. Why had this very serious error not been picked up on and corrected? Does that indicate that the TV staff responsible for this mis-information are also ignorant of the difference between a discovery and an invention? The proof of that apparently 'was in the pudding' so to speak........I did watch the program to its conclusion hoping that this error would be pointed out but it was not........Anyone know why when the facts we teach children ought to be correct. :confused: Surely a 'scientist' ought to have known the vast difference between the two shouldn't he? Or am I so old now that the world has changed so much I no longer have the world I once knew where I could rely on information and tutorage given by professionals?
    Come on BBC...earn and retain your place as a top broadcaster by ceasing these silly childish errors by employing staff who take their responibilities seriously and research the facts before altering history.
    Confused, you bet I am......seriously worried about the education of our children....yes that too. :rolleyes:
     
  2. Andy-K2

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    I am worried for our children’s education too mate, I remember helping our kid’s teachers on a school trip (I was a driver with a PSV), on talking to the Math’s teacher she said she was happy and would mark a child’s homework correct if the answer was close to the correct answer... I was shocked and argued the point for a while (a friendly argument) but she was insistent that this was the new way.... I was horrified. Oh yes, your OP was very interesting... I think you should forward it to the BBC.
     
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    It may have been the new way at her school, but I can assure you it wasn't and still isn't at the school my wife used to teach at, she is now retired but still goes in two days a week voluntarily to ease the load where she can for her colleagues.

    ATB, Ray.
     
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    I know that when it comes to exams they will give marks for the answer if its wrong (not full marks) but only when they can see the calculations that they have written when working it out, this is due to being able to see that they know the theory and the correct way of how to do it but made a mistake in the figures.
     
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    We have school lads working in the shop on a Saturday during the summer, all have had to be taught weights and measures, as they didn't get at school!!!!

    and most of them can't even count change!!!!
     
  6. Ichabod Armacost

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    Out of interest, how old are these school lads? The reason I ask is that the junior kids my missus used to teach were all taught weights and measures, and they were all taught about money, how to count it, how much change should be given and so forth.

    My wife has just told me that the hardest concept to teach junior kids was time..............Unless they have a digital clock or watch, that actually shows the time in numbers, they are screwed, she would spend a week of maths lessons teaching little kids to tell the time, (analogue time) because even now, most clocks in public places and in schools swimming baths and such are still analogue clocks. after a week of lessons it would sink in, but then of course, they forget all about it, because at home, there are no analogue clocks cos the bloody parents can't tell the bloody time either! so they have to have a digital clock with numbers on it...............What chance have the kids got?

    My guess is that the kids you are getting in your shop, are the ones that were sat at the back of their class pulling their puds whilst all the rest were getting on with learning stuff.

    It's been like this for a while now, schools do their best usually, but there is a whole raft of parents out there that should have been sterilised at birth, and they undermine everything the schools try to do.
     
  7. jantar

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    Yep Stevie76, already posted about that issue but one member got irate because there was school teaching in the family history. Looks like the teachers now have it all their own way and parents no longer have any say in their childrens education. That is strengthened by the matter of they only have to consider striking and once again they win. Comon sense no longer has a place.....its more the votes that count despite it will probably lead to another generation that is incapable of using their own minds to solve problems and not the technology of tills that tell them what change to give and calculators used for even the most basic of calculations. I opposed them when they were first 'allowed' and will always do so. Proficiency in the the 3 R's should be the first objective prior to the use of any assistive device.
    Look what happens when there is a power cut.....even the local small corner shops close because they cannot do the math!
    Welcome to the real world of today. Advancement is turning into backward steps.....at the run.
    Doubtless there will be the usual 'there was a teacher in my family' posted as some form of excusive meaningless blart will now be posted..........
     
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    15-16 mate, most of them very clever destined for university!

    but they lack the basics, the stuff needed to get through real life:)
     
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    Talking about teaching kids "time" does anyone have the Jasper Carrot sketch for this it's hilarious.
     

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