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S400 v Ultra

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by trumpetier, May 25, 2015.

  1. trumpetier

    trumpetier Very Active

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    Owned a few 400,s in the past but never a Ultra. Apart from size and shot count which is the better gun overall? Anyone owned both? I no the 400s weeknesses but still like them but could be swayed to an Ultra.
     
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    Iv owned both and I'd go for the 400 but both good rifles so it's what ever one you fancy atb
     
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    I have both but I always pick up the Ultra as first choice.
     
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    My first pcp was a ultra tench regged mmc cocking system and loved it, in fact I've owned two. A friend has the newer ultra SE model and it's a cracking little rifle. I've recently got a old s400 pre a/t and its a good little rifle. Both are great rifles and there's nothing in it for me, maybe shoulder the ultra and see what you think? If I had to choose I would go for the s400 because I like the stock further down the air cylinder (I've got long arms :D)
     
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    ive had both and if i was ofered both again for free i would not take the ultra off your hands the s400 is in a different league(imo)
     
  6. BiggaJ

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    To me the Ultra is one of those guns that just feels so right in my hands, I don't own one but my dad does. We did go try quite a few different guns beforehand though, then I bought him a very good used Ultra SE.

    I suppose it's how it feels, forgetting manufacturer.... Go shoulder it and a few others. It might not feel good to you, we are all different.

    Nothing wrong to me with how the S400 feels at all, just don't feel it comes to shoulder and is as balanced as the Ultra. Shot count is another aspect you need to consider, depends on what use you have in mind.
     
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    I have both and it's horses for courses. The tiny little Ultra for situations where there's not much room (barns, shooting from the car, tiny hides etc) and the S400 for everything else.

    Peter
     
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    Pros and cons for each, but the S400 is the more complete and rounded gun IMO.
     
  9. stevemandm

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    we have had both in .177, and still have them. we got the ultra tench regged by xtx, and it has totally transformed it.
    as standard, the s400 (karbine) is miles ahead of the ultra, but once regged, the ultra closes the gap ..... but the s400 is still just out in front as the better all round rifle
     
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    I have had an older ultra and an older S410. The ultra performed flawlessly and could hold sub 1" groups out to over 60 yards. I once done a full fill, 44 shots, through a sub 1" at 63 yards to prove a point to a guy I used to shoot with.

    The S410 was a dog. I hated every minute of it. It wouldn't group with anything I put through it, despite trying 7-8 different makes, in multiple head sizes of each type. I ended up swapping it for an S10 BBK, twice the rifle the 410 is.
     
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    Cheers guys, much to think about:)
     

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