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S10 Magazine Wear

Discussion in 'Anything Airgun Related' started by gw8izr, Feb 14, 2020 at 1:50 PM.

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    792DED20-74DC-4E70-8D84-61FAACD7359A.jpeg It would be really useful if someone could please look at the picture here and let me know if the pin that engages with the guns lifter is supposed to protrude beyond the edge of the magazine.

    Basically the fault is that there is intermittent engagement which result in a failure to push a pellet forward all the time.

    I’m trying to ascertain where the wear is. I have used marking blue and it appears that it’s the mag that is worn but I’m not 100% certain. There is a tiny amount of fore and aft play in the magazine when engaged but I can’t make the fault repeatable enough to be certain if that engagement is affected.

    TIA
     
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    Does the rifle have the new revised indexing post ? If not, check for wear on the original :up:
     
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    Yes the pawl arm on the mag should be a touch longer. The one in the pic is either snapped off or worn down to nothing.:up:
     
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    :facepalm: Ignore my post as read the thread title as S410 :oops:
     
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    My suggestion would be to remove the lifting mechanism in the s10.
    Simple as drifting out the small pin and removing the spring and pressed steel parts and then switching to the new style red or blue mags :up:.
     
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    Thanks everyone for the good input, I’ll talk to the owner and see what they want to do.

    I presume the “new type” means manual advance of the magazine?


    It shoots really nicely so it’s worth sorting in my view but he’s not know for spending money so .... :)
     
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    No. The new type is the one used on current BSA air rifles. It's essentially the same magazine, but massively simplified so as not to need an indexing pin. They're a hell of a lot more reliable than the original S10 mags, as they can't skip pellets. Converting an S10 to be able to use them is easy job. I converted my Mk1 S10 in about 15 minutes using basic hand tools (I lost my old mag).
     
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    Ah that’s interesting, I’ll have a google and read to see what is involved.

    Thank you
     
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    If you remove the action from the stock, you'll see a pressed metal arm that activates the indexing lever on the magazine held by a pin under the magazine well. Simply drift the pin out, throw away the arm, and knock the pin back in. Job done, and it'll now work with the new magazines. It won't work with the original magazine anymore, though.
     
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    It doesn’t work with it now anyway :)

    It all sounds straightforward enough and they aren’t that expensive from what I can see at the usual places.

    I should see the owner tomorrow sometime so I’ll ask him what he wants to do about it.

    Again thanks for all the help.
     
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    That’s the original mag they where crap , they would skip pellets or wouldn’t index , the newer colour coded ones were better but I didn’t like that they relied on the pellet skirt to stop the mag from indexing to the next pellet (if that makes sense)
     
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